In Part I of our series on Socialism in the Modern World, we looked at the tragic story of Venezuela.
Today, we’re going to look at what we can learn from the Nordic nations. And the first thing to understand, as I explain in this interview, is that these nations are only socialist if the definition is watered down.
As I noted in the interview, real socialism is based on government ownership and control of the “means of production.” But Nordic countries don’t have government-owned factories, government-controlled allocation of resources, or government regulation of prices.
In other words, those nations are not socialist (government ownership), they’re not fascist (government control), and they’re not even corporatist (cronyism).
So what are they?
In a column for the Washington Post, Max Boot accurately describes them as free-market welfare states.
…rigging elections and locking up or killing political opponents. This is one model of socialism — the same approach that has been applied in Cuba and the Soviet Union. But there are many other varieties that are far more benign. …the Scandinavian model. …Denmark, Norway and Sweden…show that a “free-market welfare state” isn’t an oxymoron. …By some measures, moreover, they are freer, economically…than the United States.
That last sentence isn’t a typo. The United States has more overall economic freedom than the Nordic nations, but both Denmark and Finland actually rank above America when looking at factors other than fiscal policy.
And Sweden and Norway only trail the United States by 0.03 and 0.06 points, respectively.
That being said, a big lesson to learn is that fiscal policy is a mess in the Scandinavian countries.
…there is nothing sinister about wanting to emulate the Scandinavian example. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s practical. The Scandinavians have lower corporate tax rates than the United States but much higher individual taxes. …The Scandinavian countries also charge hefty value-added taxes of 25 percent on consumption. The United States doesn’t have a national sales tax, and the average rate for state sales taxes is only 7 percent. In all, Scandinavians pay $25,488 a head in taxes compared with $14,793 a head in the United States — 72 percent more. This is what it takes to finance a Scandinavian-style social welfare state. It can’t be done simply by raising marginal tax rates on the wealthiest taxpayers to 70 percent, as Ocasio-Cortez suggests, because few taxpayers pay the top rate. It requires a massive tax hike on the middle class.
Amen. This is a point I have frequently made, most recently when writing about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s statist agenda. Ordinary taxpayers will pick up most of the tab if the left’s agenda is adopted.
But I’m digressing. Let’s return to today’s main issue, which is the Nordic nations and socialism.
Technically, there’s no connection. As I said in the interview, those countries have never been socialist. Heck, if those nations are socialist, then so is the United States.
There is a lesson to be learned, however, and that lesson is relevant whether one uses the technical or common definition of socialism.
Simply stated, the relative success of those nations is due to free markets and a history of small government, but the imposition of big welfare states starting in the 1960s has weakened the region’s economic vitality.
This chart tells you everything you need to know.
P.S. Actually, there is more your should know. Nima Sanandaji’s data on how Americans of Nordic descent are richer than residents of Nordic nations is very illuminating.
P.P.S. And we have specific data from Sweden showing how that nation lost ground after it adopted the big welfare state (and has subsequently gained ground thanks to pro-market reforms such as nationwide school choice and partial pension privatization).
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and what about the millions of illegal aliens entering the country with nothing but a primary school education… and no jobs… guaranteed basic income and Medicaid? teach them coding?
it will be interesting to see how socialism works out if we have an ai / robotics revolution… and a significant part of the work force is toast…
One, the current US welfare state is already fairly generous. Just not as much as the Nordics.
Two, if the US adopts the Nordic welfare state, taxes will go up. The AVERAGE Nordic person pays roughly DOUBLE the income tax and TRIPLE the sales tax of the AVERAGE American.
Three, if the US adopts the Nordic welfare state, long-term US growth will suffer. Future prosperity will be less than it could be.
My conclusion? A large, Nordic-style welfare state is not worth it.
For a better understanding of Nordic Socialism read “Debunking Utopia” by Nima Sanandaji.
Dan,
Very accurate.
I good short hand for “free enterprise welfare state” is “social democracy,” meaning no central planning and little government ownership but heavy personal taxation and redistribution.
This is what Sanders and AOC want. They don’t want responsibility for managing the means of production. That is hard work! They just want lots of free stuff like iPhones and ganga.
John McCormack
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 9:41 AM International Liberty wrote:
> Dan Mitchell posted: “In Part I of our series on Socialism in the Modern > World, we looked at the tragic story of Venezuela. Today, we’re going to > look at what we can learn from the Nordic nations. And the first thing to > understand, as I explain in this interview, is that th” >