Venezuela is falling apart. Decades of bad policy have produced economic stagnation and misery.
On the other side of South America, Chile has enjoyed comparatively strong growth since reforms began in the 1980s.
Can we learn lessons by comparing these two nations?
Yes. More than five years ago, I compared three decades of data to show that pro-market Chile grew somewhat faster than mixed-economy Argentina and much faster than statist Venezuela.
Now we have some new data.
My colleague at the Cato Institute, Marian Tupy, has an article in Reason that compares Chile and Venezuela.
He starts by noting that the two nations have moved in dramatically different directions when measuring economic freedom.
Chile’s success starts in the mid-1970s, when Chile’s military government abandoned socialism and started to implement economic reforms. In 2013, Chile was the world’s 10th freest economy. Venezuela, in the meantime, declined from being the world’s 10th freest economy in 1975 to being the world’s least free economy in 2013.
Here’s a sobering chart on the changes.
Some may believe that economic freedom as merely an abstraction.
What’s more important, they argue, is results. Is a nation enjoying good economic performance, or is it stagnating?
Well, it turns out that the abstraction of economic freedom is very important if you want good performance. Here’s another chart from Marian’s article. You can see that Venezuela has stagnated while Chile has boomed.
Chile is not a perfect role model, to be sure, because of an unsavory period of military rule.
But the good news, Marian points out, is that economic liberty has led to political liberty. Whereas the opposite has happened in Venezuela.
…as the people of Chile grew richer, they started demanding more say in the running of their country. Starting in the late 1980s, the military gradually and peacefully handed power over to democratically-elected representatives. In Venezuela, the opposite has happened. As failure of socialism became more apparent, the government had to resort to ever more repressive measures in order to keep itself in power.
Here’s a chart showing the remarkable progress in Chile..as well as the deterioration of rights in Venezuela (please note that “1” means strong political rights and “7” means low or nonexistent political rights).
All this data seemingly is slam-dunk evidence for the Chilean model over the Venezuelan model.
Yet there have been a number of leftists who actually praised the statist policies of Venezuela’s authoritarian rulers. Here are some excerpts from an exposê in the Daily Caller.
Socialist Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez was praised throughout his life by many figures in academia, journalism and Hollywood despite his brutal regime. This praise included Salon writer David Sirota’s piece after the leader’s death, titled “Hugo Chavez’s economic miracle.” In British publication The New Statesman, a headline as Chavez was nearing death in January 2013 was “Hugo Chavez: Man against the world,” and its sub-headline read “As illness ends Hugo Chavez’s rule in Venezuela, what will his legacy be? Richard Gott argues he brought hope to a continent.” This praise of Chavez by so many who enjoyed the benefits of living in a capitalist society while looking at the economic record of the late leader, as well as what his successor President Nicolas Maduro, has come undone.
And Joe Stiglitz gushed about Venezuela’s economic performance back in 2007.
Nobel Prize winning economist and former vice-president of the World Bank, Joseph Stiglitz, praised Venezuela’s economic growth and “positive policies in health and education” during a visit to Caracas on Wednesday. “Venezuela’s economic growth has been very impressive in the last few years,” Stiglitz said during his speech at a forum on Strategies for Emerging Markets sponsored by the Bank of Venezuela. …Venezuela has taken advantage of the boom in world oil prices to implement policies that benefit its citizens and promote economic development. “Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez appears to have had success in bringing health and education to the people in the poor neighborhoods of Caracas, to those who previously saw few benefits of the countries oil wealth,” he said. In his latest book “Making Globalization Work,” Stiglitz argues that left governments such as in Venezuela, “have frequently been castigated and called ‘populist’ because they promote the distribution of benefits of education and health to the poor.” “It is not only important to have sustainable growth,” Stiglitz continued during his speech, “but to ensure the best distribution of economic growth, for the benefit of all citizens.”
Wow, this is a remarkable case of ideological blindness. Stiglitz presumably allowed his statist views to drive his analysis.
But let’s focus on one part of that excerpt. Yes, it’s very desirable for all citizens to benefit from economic growth.
But if you look at the chart from Marian’s article comparing GDP per capita in Chile and Venezuela, it’s abundantly clear which nation is producing better outcomes from average citizens.
This is a fundamental flaw of statists. By fixating on redistribution and equality, this leads them to policies that re-slice a shrinking economic pie.
The evidence from all over the world is that this is not a recipe for convergence with rich nations.
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If Stiglitz et all were to just simply make the case that highly redistributive Socialist political systems are better than competitive market based ones, that would at least be a justifiable moral (but wrong-headed) position to take.
What kills their argument so utterly is that the highly redistributive political systems don’t even seem to be able to redistribute!*. They always seem to end up collecting resources at the point of power. They end in corruption, incompetence and inevitable economic stagnation.
* To avoid the ‘But Sweden…’ excuse. Sweden et al are not Socialist systems. They are mixed economies. Markets and Socialism together.
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Stiglitz: Socialist governments are called populist because they promote the distribution of benefits of education and health to the poor.
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Humans and our ancestor species lived in small groups for 500K+ years hunting and gathering. These groups were ruled by hierarchy and group customs. Evolutionary pressure formed who we are.
An H-G (hunter-gatherer) group had some specialization of roles, but the rule was to share everything. A hunting party might be lucky to find and kill a big animal. The hunter who struck the decisive blow got a juicy portion. The rest was shared with the group.
There was some personal skill mixed into mostly a group effort. The group took credit for most of the group’s income, allowing some extra reward for individual accomplishment. The leaders took a big share.
Socialists/Marxists have this tribal view. The progess of history is supposedly inevitable, and economic history shapes the people. We are products of the tribe and history. We owe everything to the tribe. As before, the person who discovers this-or-that advance deserves a reward, but not too much.
Modern individualism and freedom are opposed to this. We observe that great wealth and comfort comes from this different organization of people. Individuals keep most of what they earn from their personal invention and effort. Now it is the tribal leaders who get a portion, but not too much.
Stiglitz is tribal and sees himself as one of the leaders. He wants to reaffirm the old ways, seeing utopia in a stong and wise central group owning everything and granting some rewards to individual creators, but not too much.
Stiglitz’s key phrase is “distribution of benefits”. Distribution implies that the benefits are naturally collected by the group for tribal distribution. In his view, it is not theft to tax away most or all of the wealth accumulated by individuals. Those individuals are under the delusion that they created that wealth, just as it would be a delusion for the leading hunter to claim ownership over a large animal killed.
As a leader, Stiglitz wants to collect all the wealth and distribute it equitably among all of the tribe. It sounds good to name the poor as the people most deserving of that distribution. Stiglitz assumes the role of a natural leader over the tribe. His judgements are the definition of what is correct. Individual wealth under the H-G model is not defined; individual wealth doesn’t exist. This is an interpretation of Marxism, or rather, Marxism is an interpretation of the tribal, H-G organization of people.
What’s incredible is that Stiglitz – unlike Sanders – admitted that socialism was not something that “worked” in and of itself but instead was a way to parcel out the benefits of high oil prices.
But somehow he didn’t recognize that what was driving high oil prices was temporary – i.e., the massive money-printing going on at the world’s central banks. How does he not understand this, and how does he answer the question, “what does Venezuela do now?”
Leftists/progressives are deeply unhappy empty people. They are forced to recreate the world after their dark, bleak empty image. They are impelled to destroy. Their policies work perfectly if you understand who they are.
Eeeeek, Dan! Check the colors on your Political Rights 1-7 graph!