The statists are making a big issue out of income inequality, hoping to convince ordinary Americans that redistribution is their only hope for a better life.
I’ve explained with a pizza analogy that this is horribly misguided because it falsely assumes the economy is a fixed pie.
Simply stated, it doesn’t make sense – or help anybody – if inequality is reduced by policies that hurt everyone, but happen to hurt upper-income people more than lower-income people.
Moreover, redistribution tends to create a “poverty trap” as people get seduced by dependency.
That’s why I’ve argued that economic growth is the best way of helping the less fortunate.
But I have to admit that Margaret Thatcher does a much better job of eviscerating the left’s agenda on this issue.
While it’s inspiring to watch Thatcher in action, it’s also painful to realize that the current crop of GOP presidential candidates seems generally incapable of making similar arguments. Can you imagine, for instance, Mitt Romney making these remarks?
Last but not least, Thatcher’s remarks remind me about Churchill’s famous quote, which is very appropriate for this discussion.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
And if you want real-world examples, look at this chart comparing North Korea and South Korea, or this chart comparing Chile, Argentina, and Venezuela. Now ask yourself a simple question: Which societies have generated more prosperity and higher living standards for ordinary people?
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[…] friends on the left apparently think that’s something to applaud, as Margaret Thatcher observed, but I’d rather be part of a society characterized by an “unequal sharing of the […]
[…] Margaret Thatcher observed about three decades ago, it seems that many folks on the left are primarily motivated by jealousy […]
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[…] friends on the left apparently think that’s something to applaud, as Margaret Thatcher observed, but I’d rather be part of a society characterized by an “unequal sharing of the […]
[…] friends on the left apparently think that’s something to applaud, as Margaret Thatcher observed, but I’d rather be part of a society characterized by an “unequal sharing of the […]
[…] even if those reforms would increase the well-being of those with lower incomes (thus confirming Margaret Thatcher’s warning that some folks on the left are willing to hurt the poor if the rich are hurt by a greater […]
[…] If we mixed the final two memes, we would get something akin to the right side of this image, which shows equal misery under socialism and unequal prosperity under capitalism (hat tip to Winston Churchill). […]
[…] If we mixed the final two memes, we would get something akin to the right side of this image, which shows equal misery under socialism and unequal prosperity under capitalism (hat tip to Winston Churchill). […]
[…] If we mixed the final two memes, we would get something akin to the right side of this image, which shows equal misery under socialism and unequal prosperity under capitalism (hat tip to Winston Churchill). […]
[…] This is healthcare version of their warped view that it’s okay to support policies that reduce income for poor people so long as the rich incur even greater losses. […]
[…] want to focus on #3 because it’s very distressing that some folks on the left are more interested in hurting the rich rather than helping the […]
[…] want to focus on #3 because it’s very distressing that some folks on the left are more interested in hurting the rich rather than helping the […]
[…] want to focus on #3 because it’s very distressing that some folks on the left are more interested in hurting the rich rather than helping the […]
[…] want to focus on #3 because it’s very distressing that some folks on the left are more interested in hurting the rich rather than helping the […]
[…] P.S. The most accurate political analysis of inequality came from Margaret Thatcher. […]
[…] P.S. The most accurate political analysis of inequality came from Margaret Thatcher. […]
[…] other words, Deroy Murdock and Margaret Thatcher weren’t creating imaginary […]
[…] Margaret Thatcher debunked the left’s view of inequality in her farewell remarks to […]
[…] other words, negative-sum economics. Though Margaret Thatcher was more eloquent in her description of this awful […]
[…] Eles ainda não querem mercados livres, é claro. Por razões ideológicas, eles continuam a pressionar por um grande Estado de bem-estar social. Mas pelo menos eles admitem que suas políticas redistributivas levam a um desempenho econômico mais fraco. Perversamente, eles estão dispostos a reduzir os padrões de vida das pessoas pobres, desde que os ricos sofram quedas ainda maiores em sua renda (em outras palavras, Thatcher estava certa). […]
[…] P.P.P.S. The most accurate political analysis of inequality came from Margaret Thatcher. […]
[…] I’ve previously shared two great videos of Thatcher, one about the real source of government funds and the other about the poisonous ideology of class warfare. […]
[…] here’s her powerful performance in the House of Commons exposing the left for being willing to impoverish the poor if it meant those with higher incomes […]
[…] other words, Deroy Murdock and Margaret Thatcher weren’t creating imaginary […]
[…] to deprive the poor so long as higher-income people have even larger losses (Margaret Thatcher nailed them on this […]
[…] some of our friends on the left – as Margaret Thatcher noted many years ago – seem to think such taxes are okay if rich people are hurt by a greater […]
[…] some of our friends on the left – as Margaret Thatcher noted many years ago – seem to think such taxes are okay if rich people are hurt by a greater […]
[…] A resposta é óbvia. Ou deveria ser óbvia, ao menos para todos que querem ajudar os pobres mais do que querem punir os ricos (e existem muitos neste último grupo, como Margaret Thatcher explicou). […]
[…] Margaret Thatcher is spinning in her grave. […]
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[…] Margaret Thatcher is spinning in her grave. […]
[…] willing to hurt the poor if the rich suffer even greater harm (in other words, Margaret Thatcher was right about their […]
[…] as Margaret Thatcher pointed out, there are plenty of folks on the left who think that’s a perfectly reasonable position. […]
[…] Perfectly stated. Reminds me of the insights offered by Thatcher and Churchill. […]
[…] los izquierdistas rencorosos son aquellos que odian más a los ricos que lo que aman a los pobres (he aquí algunas palabras sabias de Margaret Thatcher para esa […]
[…] They still don’t want free markets, of course. For ideological reasons, they continue to push for a big welfare state. But at least they admit their redistributionist policies lead to weaker economic performance. Perversely, they are willing to reduce living standards for poor people so long as rich people suffer even bigger drops in their income (in other words, Thatcher was right). […]
[…] sometimes wonder how vigorously to present my argument. Is it actually true, as Thatcher and Churchill argued, that leftists are willing to hurt poor people if that’s what is […]
[…] sometimes wonder how vigorously to present my argument. Is it actually true, as Thatcher and Churchill argued, that leftists are willing to hurt poor people if that’s what is […]
[…] unequal levels of prosperity (if you think I’m exaggerating, the IMF inadvertently confirmed Thatcher’s warning by trying to justify a 30 percent reduction in national income if it meant a society would have […]
[…] other words, Margaret Thatcher wasn’t exaggerating when she mocked the left for being willing to sacrifice national well-being and hurt the poor so long as those with higher […]
[…] on the left openly are willing to sacrifice growth to achieve more equality (Margaret Thatcher even claimed that they would be willing to hurt the poor if the rich suffered even more). Folks on the right, […]
[…] Some on the left openly are willing to sacrifice growth to achieve more equality (Margaret Thatcher even claimed that they would be willing to hurt the poor if the rich suffered even more). Folks on the right, by […]
[…] Some on the left openly are willing to sacrifice growth to achieve more equality (Margaret Thatcher even claimed that they would be willing to hurt the poor if the rich suffered even more). Folks on the right, by […]
[…] the data in this study seem to confirm Margaret Thatcher’s observation about what really motivates the […]
[…] The answer is obvious. Or should be obvious, at least to everyone who wants to help the poor more than they want to punish the rich (and there are plenty in the latter camp, as Margaret Thatcher explained). […]
[…] The answer is obvious. Or should be obvious, at least to everyone who wants to help the poor more than they want to punish the rich (and there are plenty in the latter camp, as Margaret Thatcher explained). […]
[…] The problem with our statist friends, as Margaret Thatcher explained, is that some of them are so upset about inequality that they’re willing to make everyone […]
[…] to say, the spiteful leftists are the ones who hate the rich more than they love the poor (here are some wise words from Margaret Thatcher on such […]
[…] And the best example of that is in the data comparing the US with Denmark and Sweden. Or the words of Margaret Thatcher. […]
[…] And the best example of that is in the data comparing the US with Denmark and Sweden. Or the words of Margaret Thatcher. […]
[…] describe Margaret Thatcher’s debunking of the coerced equality […]
[…] I suspect (as Margaret Thatcher sagely observed) that a lot of leftists are more motivated by animus against success than they are about genuine […]
[…] So relative inequality may decline, but only because the rich suffer even more than the poor (as Margaret Thatcher brilliantly explained). […]
[…] perhaps when she exposed leftists for being so fixated on class warfare that they would be willing to hurt the poor if they could hurt the rich even […]
[…] perhaps when she exposed leftists for being so fixated on class warfare that they would be willing to hurt the poor if they could hurt the rich even […]
[…] So relative inequality may decline, but only because the rich suffer even more than the poor (as Margaret Thatcher brilliantly explained). […]
[…] And I never get tired of sharing this Margaret Thatcher video because she succinctly explains that many leftists would rather hurt the rich than help the […]
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[…] least subconsciously) they resent the rich more than they want to help the poor. That’s certainly the conclusion that Margaret Thatcher reached after her years in public […]
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Your article ends with a question that asks: “Which societies have generated more prosperity and higher living standards for ordinary people?”
The answer, according to statistics, is countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland, and countries who apply what is known as “the Scandinavian model”. This is a model which relies heavily on an efficient government which (regardless of whether it is right wing or left wing) applies heavy taxes, income redistribution, and countless policies that go into making capitalism work at its best for the most and not just for a few. They are countries which, moreover, have managed to stay afloat better than the others since the recession hit.
I think there are both good examples and bad examples of social capitalism (championed by Keynes and others) and good and bad examples of neo-liberalism (championed by thinkers such as Mises and Hayek). The secret is how well the government does in implementing either model.
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[…] Margaret Thatcher famously said, it seems they’re willing to hurt the poor if they can hurt the rich even […]
You can’t expect people who consider getting a voting ID that they should be working harder instead of looking in their mailbox every day.
Monty Python, anyone?
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They got rid of her because while her sophist approach to exploit class war hatred, prejudice, garnered electoral wins, she was actually dumb as a box of rocks when it came to running a business.
She wrecked homes, families, whole industries in her cavalier jingoistic wake
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And yet they got rid of her, those men in dark corridors and grey suits because she was a threat to the EU project. Spineless men who sold their souls for an EU job for life and a gold plated pension.
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[…] you want to know why the left is wrong about income inequality, you need to watch this Margaret Thatcher video. In just a few minutes, the “Iron Lady” explains how some – perhaps most – statists would […]
[…] you want to know why the left is wrong about income inequality, you need to watch this Margaret Thatcher video. In just a few minutes, the “Iron Lady” explains how some – perhaps most – […]
[…] you want to know why the left is wrong about income inequality, you need to watch this Margaret Thatcher video. In just a few minutes, the “Iron Lady” explains how some – perhaps most – […]
[…] If you don’t believe me, watch this marvelous video of Margaret Thatcher debunking the left. […]
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[…] P.P.S. As you might expect, Margaret Thatcher addressed this issue in a brilliant fashion. […]
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[…] P.P.S. As you might expect, Margaret Thatcher addressed this issue in a brilliant fashion. […]
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[…] P.S. I periodically share two great Reagan videos, which can be seen here and here, but I also have a couple of inspiring videos of Thatcher in action, which can be viewed here and here. […]
[…] P.S. I periodically share two great Reagan videos, which can be seen here and here, but I also have a couple of inspiring videos of Thatcher in action, which can be viewed here and here. […]
[…] here’s her powerful performance in the House of Commons exposing the left for being willing to impoverish the poor if it meant those with higher incomes […]
[…] here’s her powerful performance in the House of Commons exposing the left for being willing to impoverish the poor if it meant those with higher incomes […]
[…] if you want even more, here’s something I wrote on income inequality and here’s a debate I did on income mobility. Even better, here’s what Margaret Thatcher said about these topics. […]
[…] Thatcher eviscerated that destructive mentality many years ago in this famous speech, but this is an area where proponents of limited government need to do more […]
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[…] I especially like his point about how class-warfare policy hurts the poor. Very similar to what Margaret Thatcher says in this powerful video. […]
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[…] But as is often the case, the left’s answer is completely wrong. Class warfare and redistributionism are terribly misguided, as illustrated by this Walter Williams column and this Margaret Thatcher video. […]
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[…] Dan Mitchell has the video: […]
Can we please retire the euphemism “redistribution”? It’s theft. It doesn’t matter how much verbiage you construct around it. When you take from productive Peter and give to unproductive Paul, it is theft. Social justice blah blah, paying their fair share, blah blah. Whatever you like your form of; we can take because we’re the State.
It’s theft. It doesn’t end well for societies that codify it into law.
Your embedded links invariably end up being “jimmyobama” not the links you indicate.
Are you copying and pasting?
Income disparity is not remedied by higher tax rates, but actually causes income disparity. This can be demonstrated with the Laffer curve, and its reciprocal curve, the size of economy curve. This is the reciprocal curve derived from dividing the revenue amount by the tax rate. This gives a very high curve on the low tax side and diminishes as the tax rate approaches 100%.
This size of the economy curve can be a proxy for the number of jobs available in the economy. Superimpose a size of the work force line horizontally across the chart. Where the size of the work force exceeds the number of jobs, as under high tax rates, available jobs are scarce and the pay is low and the employer benefits because he can pay only a fraction of the value added by that employee. Where the number of jobs in the economy exceed the size of the workforce, jobs are plentiful and wages and salaries are high and constrained only by the value added by the employee.
When wages are high families are financially able to raise children with only one parent working outside the home. This would have a reinforcing effect of further shrinking the participating work force pushing wages still higher. And with employers being forced to pay close to the value created by the job, more capital goes to the workers, making it easier for them to start their own businesses. Income inequality is lowered, by lowering tax rates. Which is pretty much the opposite of what the high tax rate advocates will tell you.
With more people working fewer people are on unemployment compensation or collecting disability checks. Demands on social services are less so taxes needed are less and government is less of a factor in lives.
To recap, increasing tax rates shrinks the economy and the number of jobs available, this allows employers to pay small wages, and make high profits that are taxed at a high rate. Lowering tax rates increases the number of jobs and the size of the economy, this forces employers to pay high wages and their profits suffer, but their net after taxes may not be greatly different or less than under high tax rates.
As growth of the US pizza stagnates while, at the same time, the three billion people of the emerging world start having US sized pizzas, the drowning American Voter lemming will, true to form, drag his rescuer below water, and predictably vote for more and more redistribution.
The Euro-Grecian vicious cycle coming to a voter’s mind near you…
The problem is short term vs. long term effects. In the short term redistribution confers some (perhaps immoral) benefits to a significant number of voters. But sooner or later the relentless compounding of resulting slow growth drags nearly everyone down to sub-par prosperity levels.
This is the drama now unfolding in the once most prosperous Western World, with Europe ahead and the US fast following suit. There is no way around it. Productive people — especially productive people of all people — cannot be convinced to produce for others, tricked into producing for others through macroeconomic post-manipulation gimmicks, or ultimately be coerced to produce for the benefit of distant unknowns. Voters should leave them alone to keep their full rewards and thus the public should be content to benefit from the work done by exceptional people. It is the work done by exceptional people that is the main benefit to society, not the taxes that they pay. The progressive solidarity fantasy, whether voluntary through repeated appeals or changes to human DNA or, more traditionally, coerced by the power of the majority, is simply a pipe dream. A pipe dream that keeps been proven wrong. But the dream keeps living on, so western World decline continues.
The destructive effects of statist legislation enacted today (e.g. most notably ObamaCare) have barely begun to have an effect, but will over time compound into an ever deeper and irreversible decline over many years to come. In the short term there is the (partially justified for the simple minded) free lunch palliative illusion.
HopNChange: The road over which Western world lemmings race to their demise… must be comical to observe this predictable western suicide from an Emerging World vantage point.
Or as Churchill put it: The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
It’s interesting to see how much people liked her, even though they held opposite political and economic positions.