One hopes that the dictator of North Korea suffered greatly before he died. After all, his totalitarian and communist (pardon the redundancy) policies caused untold death and misery.
But let’s try to learn an economics lesson. In a previous post, I compared long-term growth in Hong Kong and Argentina to show the difference between capitalism and cronyism.
But for a much more dramatic comparison, look at the difference between North Korea and South Korea. Hmmm…, I wonder if we can conclude that markets are better than statism?
And if you like these types of comparisons, here’s a post showing how Singapore has caught up with the United States. And here’s another comparing what’s happened in the past 30 years in Chile, Argentina, and Venezuela.
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] does/did South Korea out-perform North […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] libertária, posso citar vários exemplo, tais como Chile vs. Argentina vs. Venezuela. Ou Coreia do Norte vs. Coreia do Sul. Ou Ucrânia vs. Polônia. Ou Hong Kong vs. Argentina. Ou Cingapura vs. Jamaica. […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] fourth item shows the results of a real-world experiment between capitalism and […]
[…] P.P.S. If you want other examples of how communist economics led to terrible outcomes, you can also compare Czechoslovakia to nations in Western Europe, as well as Cuba vs Chile and North Korea vs South Korea. […]
[…] P.P.S. If you want other examples of how communist economics led to terrible outcomes, you can also compare Czechoslovakia to nations in Western Europe, as well as Cuba vs Chile and North Korea vs South Korea. […]
[…] P.P.S. If you want other examples of how communist economics led to terrible outcomes, you can also compare Czechoslovakia to nations in Western Europe, as well as Cuba vs Chile and North Korea vs South Korea. […]
[…] P.P.S. If you want other examples of how communist economics led to terrible outcomes, you can also compare Czechoslovakia to nations in Western Europe, as well as Cuba vs Chile and North Korea vs South Korea. […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] hardly a surprise for anyone who’s compared North Korea and South Korea. Or West Germany and East […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] Example #8: North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] like cross-country comparisons – such as North Korea vs South Korea and East Germany vs. West Germany – because they can be very informative when […]
[…] like cross-country comparisons – such as North Korea vs South Korea and East Germany vs. West Germany – because they can be very informative when comparing the […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] I don’t just highlight differences between nations. Yes, it’s educational to look at North Korea vs. South Korea or Chile vs. Venezuela vs. Argentina, but I also think you can learn a lot by looking at what’s […]
[…] South Korea vs. North Korea […]
[…] North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] libertária, posso citar vários exemplo, tais como Chile vs. Argentina vs. Venezuela. Ou Coreia do Norte vs. Coreia do Sul. Ou Ucrânia vs. Polônia. Ou Hong Kong vs. Argentina. Ou Singapura vs. Jamaica. […]
[…] That data is especially powerful, by the way, when you compare South Korea and North Korea. […]
[…] That data is especially powerful, by the way, when you compare South Korea and North Korea. […]
[…] North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] if you want real-world examples, look at this chart comparing North Korea and South Korea, or this chart comparing Chile, Argentina, and Venezuela. Now ask yourself a simple question: Which […]
[…] libertária, posso citar vários exemplo, tais como Chile vs. Argentina vs. Venezuela. Ou Coreia do Norte vs. Coreia do Sul. Ou Ucrânia vs. Polônia. Ou Hong Kong vs. Argentina. Ou Cingapura vs. Jamaica. Ou Estados Unidos […]
[…] of the most dramatic examples is South Korean prosperity versus North Korean […]
[…] es dramáticamente evidente cuando se compara Corea del Sur y Corea del Norte, pero también se observan números notables al comparar Singapur con los Estados […]
[…] is dramatically evident when comparing South Korea and North Korea, but you also see remarkable numbers when comparing Singapore with the United […]
[…] is dramatically evident when comparing South Korea and North Korea, but you also see remarkable numbers when comparing Singapore with the United […]
[…] seja Coreia do Norte contra Coreia do Sul , Cuba contra o Chile , ou Ucrânia contra Polônia , nações com governos inchados e […]
[…] P.S. There are some places where people don’t appreciate my work. I’ve never had a single visit or page view from Niue, Norfolk Island, Svalbard, or Tokelau. Given the very small populations of those obscure jurisdictions, I’ll try not to take it personally. Oh, and I’ve also never had a visitor or page view from North Korea. But I’m assuming that nation’s totalitarian government blocks access so citizens don’t get exposed to this or this. […]
[…] South Korea has been a great success story for the past five decades, but that redistribution trendline is very […]
[…] amistosas con el mercado con jurisdicciones estatistas. Ya comparemos a Chile con Venezuela, Corea del Norte con Corea del Sur o Hong Kong con Argentina, los resultados siempre muestran que la libertad económica es la receta […]
[…] jurisdictions with statist jurisdictions. Whether we’re looking at Chile vs. Venezuela, North Korea vs. South Korea, or Hong Kong vs. Argentina, the results always show that economic liberty is the recipe for […]
[…] jurisdictions with statist jurisdictions. Whether we’re looking at Chile vs. Venezuela, North Korea vs. South Korea, or Hong Kong vs. Argentina, the results always show that economic liberty is the recipe for growth […]
[…] jurisdictions with statist jurisdictions. Whether we’re looking at Chile vs. Venezuela, North Korea vs. South Korea, or Hong Kong vs. Argentina, the results always show that economic liberty is the recipe for growth […]
[…] sure the world’s most suffocatingly statist regime since the socialist hellholes of Cuba and North Korea weren’t included (because of a lack of acceptable […]
[…] amusing, let’s not forget (as captured by these two short videos) that it actually represents utter misery and unimaginable agony for millions of innocent […]
[…] Speaking of tyranny, North Korea wins the prize for practicing the purest remaining form of communism. But that’s not a prize worth winning. Unless the goal is horrific poverty and suffering. […]
[…] do wonder whether a year in some hellhole such as Venezuela, North Korea, or Cuba would change their […]
[…] As an economist, I focus on the material failure of communism and I’ve tried to make that very clear with comparisons of living standards over time in Cuba and Hong Kong as well as in North Korea and South Korea. […]
[…] As an economist, I focus on the material failure of communism and I’ve tried to make that very clear with comparisons of living standards over time in Cuba and Hong Kong as well as in North Korea and South Korea. […]
[…] As an economist, I focus on the material failure of communism and I’ve tried to make that very clear with comparisons of living standards over time in Cuba and Hong Kong as well as in North Korea and South Korea. […]
[…] As an economist, I focus on the material failure of communism and I’ve tried to make that very clear with comparisons of living standards over time in Cuba and Hong Kong as well as in North Korea and South Korea. […]
[…] in the world. Maduro in Venezuela would be a prime example, and you can add the dictators of North Korea, Cuba, and other hellholes to that […]
[…] in the world. Maduro in Venezuela would be a prime example, and you can add the dictators of North Korea, Cuba, and other hellholes to that […]
[…] But I utterly despise the totalitarian regimes in Venezuela and North Korea. […]
[…] libertarian perspective, I can cite lots of examples, such as Chile vs. Argentina vs. Venezuela. Or North Korea vs. South Korea. Or Ukraine vs. Poland. Or Hong Kong vs. Argentina. Or Singapore vs. Jamaica. Or the United States […]
[…] is no example of a successful socialist nation anywhere in the world. Cuba? No. North Korea? No. The Soviet Empire? Don’t make me laugh. Venezuela? You must be […]
[…] is no example of a successful socialist nation anywhere in the world. Cuba? No. North Korea? No. The Soviet Empire? Don’t make me laugh. Venezuela? You must be […]
[…] In other words, take the traditional horror of communism and then add a layer of autarky to ensure even greater misery. […]
[…] Or, since Corbyn’s main economic adviser actually has said all income belongs to the government and Corbyn himself has endorsed a maximum wage, maybe an Anglo-Saxon version of North Korea. […]
[…] The Labour Party is led by Jeremy Corbyn, a crazed Bernie Sanders-style leftist, and British voters have no desire to become an Anglo-Saxon version of Venezuela. Or, since Corbyn’s main economic adviser actually has said all income belongs to the government and Corbyn himself has endorsed a maximum wage, maybe an Anglo-Saxon version of North Korea. […]
[…] North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] are Cuba and North Korea so […]
[…] They are equally capable of rationalizing that economic misery in places such as Greece and Venezuela has nothing to do with bad policy, and you can even find a few zealots willing to defend basket cases such as Cuba and North Korea. […]
[…] stories from around the world, including Hong Kong, Singapore, Chile, Estonia, Taiwan, Ireland, South Korea, and […]
[…] a map showing the entire world. The worst nations are in red, with North Korea at the very bottom, followed by Venezuela and […]
[…] North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] cites South Korea as an example of a nation where poor people now enjoy much better lives thanks to growth, and she then asks […]
[…] que nous pouvons sereinement considérer que le Venezuela a franchi ce pas, rejoignant l’enfer dystopique de la Corée du Nord (à moins que vous ne considériez que de bons arguments placent le régime sauvage de Pyongyang […]
[…] and malnutrition, I think we can safely confirm that Venezuela has made that crossing, joining the dystopian hell of North Korea (though you can make a good argument that the savage regime based in Pyongyang actually belongs in […]
[…] and malnutrition, I think we can safely confirm that Venezuela has made that crossing, joining the dystopian hell of North Korea (though you can make a good argument that the savage regime based in Pyongyang actually belongs in […]
[…] France (#57), Denmark (#21), and Finland (#20) are all much more market-oriented than Sudan (unrated, but would have an awful score), Nigeria (#113), and Bangladesh (#121). Smith’s argument is akin to me saying that government-built roads cause economic misery because that’s how they do it in the hellhole of North Korea. […]
[…] And the greater the level of plunder, as we see from extreme examples such as Venezuela and North Korea, the greater the […]
[…] I suppose I should repeat my caveat from earlier in the month that hellholes such as Cuba and North Korea would probably rank lower if they were included in the […]
[…] surprised to learn that Venezuela is in last place (though, to be fair, the communist hellholes of North Korea and Cuba aren’t in the rankings because of inadequate […]
[…] it’s North Korea vs. South Korea, Cuba vs. Chile, or Ukraine vs. Poland, nations with bigger governments and more intervention […]
[…] Though if a government engages in enough cronyism/interventionism (think Venezuela), the net result looks a lot like socialism/state planning (think North Korea). […]
[…] If all the world’s countries were included, Venezuela presumably would beat out North Korea. And maybe a couple of other squalid outposts of statism, such as […]
[…] is proof that being on the wrong side of the spectrum is a recipe for collapse (or, in the case of North Korea, a recipe for never getting off the ground in the first […]
[…] is proof that being on the wrong side of the spectrum is a recipe for collapse (or, in the case of North Korea, a recipe for never getting off the ground in the first […]
[…] other words, South Korea out-performs North Korea because its economy is largely driven by decisions in quadrant […]
[…] other words, South Korea out-performs North Korea because its economy is largely driven by decisions in quadrant […]
[…] other words, South Korea out-performs North Korea because its economy is largely driven by decisions in quadrant […]
[…] Most non-democratic societies have policies that are so evil and destructive (think Cuba and North Korea) that they make France seem like a beacon of economic […]
[…] true that she didn’t have this evidence available when she was gushing about the Pyongyang being a “city without slums,” but […]
[…] if you’re amoral and simply want to know what works, compare the performance of North Korea and South Korea. Or look at thedifference between Cuba and Hong […]
[…] if you’re amoral and simply want to know what works, compare the performance of North Korea and South Korea. Or look at the difference between Cuba and Hong […]
[…] if you’re amoral and simply want to know what works, compare the performance of North Korea and South Korea. Or look at the difference between Cuba and Hong […]
[…] pointed out, of course, that the argument was silly. Sort of like claiming that North Korea is the left’s version of policy […]
[…] pointed out, of course, that the argument was silly. Sort of like claiming that North Korea is the left’s version of policy […]
[…] pointed out, of course, that the argument was silly. Sort of like claiming that North Korea is the left’s version of policy […]
[…] certainly can’t pick the nations, such as Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea, that practice real socialism (i.e., government ownership of the means of […]
[…] certainly can’t pick the nations, such as Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea, that practice real socialism (i.e., government ownership of the means of […]
[…] failure, looking at both the totalitarian version in places like Cuba, China, Venezuela, and North Korea, as well as the majoritarian version in nations such as France, Italy, and […]
[…] failure, looking at both the totalitarian version in places like Cuba, China, Venezuela, and North Korea, as well as the majoritarian version in nations such as France, Italy, and […]
[…] I don’t want to be overly glum. Only 10 nations rank above the United States and more than 160 jurisdictions get lower scores. And being “mostly free” is better than being “moderately free” or “mostly unfree.” Or, Heaven forbid, being a “repressed” nation such as Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea. […]
[…] I don’t want to be overly glum. Only 10 nations rank above the United States and more than 160 jurisdictions get lower scores. And being “mostly free” is better than being “moderately free” or “mostly unfree.” Or, Heaven forbid, being a “repressed” nation such as Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea. […]
[…] he list North Korea and Cuba, countries that actually still have genuine […]
[…] he list North Korea and Cuba, countries that actually still have genuine […]
[…] he list North Korea and Cuba, countries that actually still have genuine […]
[…] Kong. And there are no pure statist dystopias, not even North Korea (though that despotic regime is as close to pure evil as exists in the […]
[…] I’m sure it’s still happening today in other socialist hell holes such as North Korea and Cuba. The elite enjoy undeserved and unearned wealth while ordinary people live wretched lives […]
[…] millions of needless deaths and untold misery for ordinary people. Just compare living standards in North Korea and South Korea, or Chile and […]
[…] millions of needless deaths and untold misery for ordinary people. Just compare living standards in North Korea and South Korea, or Chile and […]
[…] * North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] from East Asia, look at the strong performances of Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea, all of which provide very impressive examples of sustained growth enabled by small government […]
[…] lessons from East Asia, look at the strong performances of Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea, all of which provide very impressive examples of sustained growth enabled by small government and […]
[…] learn lessons from East Asia, look at the strong performance of Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea, all of which provide very impressive examples of sustained growth enabled by small government and […]
[…] is why centrally planned economies such as North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela are such […]
[…] China still ranks higher than North Korea. I’ve never had a single visitor from that horribly oppressed nation, or from 13 other […]
[…] * North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] * North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] be dramatically reduced. Sure, those of us left would wind up being equally poor, like in Cuba or North Korea, but you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few […]
[…] * North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] * North Korea vs. South Korea […]
[…] 8 https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/the-brutal-impact-of-north-korean-statism/ […]
[…] you want more examples, check out this chart showing how North Korea and South Korea have diverged over […]
[…] why statist nations languish and market-oriented countries […]
[…] If you want more evidence on the superiority of markets over statism, check out the comparison of South Korea and North Korea and the difference between Chile, Argentina, and Venezuela. Heck, even the data comparing America […]
[…] más evidencia sobre la superioridad de los mercados sobre el estatismo, echa un vistazo a la comparación de Corea del Sur y Corea del Norte y de la diferencia entre Chile, Argentina y Venezuela . Heck, incluso los datos que comparan […]
[…] If you want more evidence on the superiority of markets over statism, check out the comparison of South Korea and North Korea and the difference between Chile, Argentina, and Venezuela. Heck, even the data comparing America […]
[…] by comparing the United States with the European Union. Or Chile with Argentina and Venezuela. Or South Korea and North Korea. Or Singapore and Hong Kong with the United […]
[…] whether we’re looking at North Korea vs South Korea, Chile vs. Venezuela, or the U.S. vs. Europe, the world is a laboratory and the evidence gets […]
[…] try to make that point in this PBS interview, but I suspect these charts comparing North Korea and South Korea and comparing Chile, Argentina, and Venezuela are much more […]
[…] utilitarian approach and show how capitalist nations outperform statist nations, as you can see in this comparison of North Korea and South Korea, and this post comparing Argentina, Chile, and […]
[…] utilitarian approach and show how capitalist nations outperform statist nations, as you can see in this comparison of North Korea and South Korea, and this post comparing Argentina, Chile, and […]
[…] […]
[…] que lamentaban– la muerte de su planificador, no pensaban en el devastador impacto de éste sobre la economía (una palabra muy fría para referirse a las vidas materiales y el potencial creativo de los […]
In the longer term economic growth dwarfs all other aspects of public policy. The naive dream of mandatory compassion leads to the cruel outcome of poverty. But HopNChange is ubiquitously irresistible in the short term –to the point of arithmetic denial.
So what happened in 1974/75? Things really seemed to diverge there.
And we still have fools who want more socialism