Whenever I need to explain the difference between socialism and capitalism, I start by noting that socialism technically is different from Obama-style big-government redistributionism and cronyism.
Socialism involves something more pervasive, involving government ownership of the means of production (which, if you read this postscript, is why Jeremy Corbyn in the United Kingdom is far more radical than previous Labour Party leaders).
It also means eviscerating the competitive price system as a means of determining value and allocating resources, relying instead on politicians and bureaucrats to arbitrarily wield that power (some American politicians favor this latter approach in certain circumstances).
Needless to say, socialism has an unmatched track record of failure. It was such a disaster than only a few supposedly high-ranked academics (see this postscript) thought it worked.
But what about high-ranked communists who grew up under socialism. Did they think it worked?
The Houston Chronicle dug into its archives to produce a story about an incident that may have played a big role in history. It’s about a senior communist functionary who was exposed to a slice of capitalism.
Yeltsin visited mission control and a mock-up of a space station. According to Houston Chronicle reporter Stefanie Asin, it wasn’t all the screens, dials, and wonder at NASA that blew up his skirt, it was the unscheduled trip inside a nearby Randall’s location.
Yeltsin, then 58, “roamed the aisles of Randall’s nodding his head in amazement,” wrote Asin. He told his fellow Russians in his entourage that if their people, who often must wait in line for most goods, saw the conditions of U.S. supermarkets, “there would be a revolution.” …In the Chronicle photos, you can see him marveling at the produce section, the fresh fish market, and the checkout counter. He looked especially excited about frozen pudding pops. “Even the Politburo doesn’t have this choice. Not even Mr. Gorbachev,” he said.
This random trip to a typical supermarket may have changed history.
About a year after the Russian leader left office, a Yeltsin biographer later wrote that on the plane ride to Yeltsin’s next destination, Miami, he was despondent. He couldn’t stop thinking about the plentiful food at the grocery store and what his countrymen had to subsist on in Russia. In Yeltsin’s own autobiography, he wrote about the experience at Randall’s, which shattered his view of communism, according to pundits. Two years later, he left the Communist Party and began making reforms to turn the economic tide in Russia. …“When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people,” Yeltsin wrote. “That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it.”
Since the Soviet Union was mired in poverty at the time, Yeltsin presumably was speculating about the potential wealth of his country.
And the good news is that the rigid communism of the Soviet Union is gone. Heck, the Soviet Union doesn’t even exist. Reagan was right when he predicted the triumph of freedom, with Marxism being relegated to the “ash heap of history.”
But the bad news is that Russia (the most prominent of the 15 nations to emerge after the crackup of the Soviet Union) is a laggard on economic reform. There was a shift away from close-to-pure communism in the 1990s, to be sure, but the country still has a long way to go before it can be considered capitalist.
Here’s a back-of-the-envelope “statism spectrum” that I created. It’s designed to show that there are no pure libertarian paradises, not even Hong Kong. And there are no pure statist dystopias, not even North Korea (though that despotic regime is as close to pure evil as exists in the world).
Russia, I’m guessing, would be somewhere between China and Mexico.
And this gives me a chance to close with an important point.
Perfect economic policy almost surely is an impossible goal. But that’s fine. We can still enjoy good growth so long as we strive to at least move in the right direction. As I explained back in 2012, the private sector is capable of producing impressive results so long as it has sufficient breathing room to operate.
P.S. If you want a simpler and more amusing explanation of different economic systems, here’s the famous “two cows” approach.
P.P.S. The United States isn’t a socialist nation, but we’re not fully immune to that destructive virus. After all, we have a government-run rail company in America, a government-run postal service, a government-run retirement system, and a government-run air traffic control system, all things that would function far more efficiently in the private sector.
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Dan, do you have an updated version of your “Pure Communism – Laissez-Faire Capitalism” chart?
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I like the “Down East” version of “2 Cows”.
One friend is questioning the wonders of Communism:
So, if you had two farms and I didn’t have none, you’d give me one of ’em?
Yup.
So, if you had two tractors and I didn’t have none, you’d give me one of ’em?
Yup.
So, if you had two cows and I didn’t have none, you’d give me one of ’em?
DAMN YOU! You know I got two cows!
“The United States isn’t a socialist nation, but we’re not fully immune to that destructive virus.” At this point the federal government, if they so chose, could increase taxes to 100% and try finding a developed part of the country where there is not some form of property tax. And, try not paying that tax and see what happens. The fact that there is a quite large highly regulated black market is, to me, not enough to declare victory. The US most certainly is a Socialist country.
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We don’t have to worry about moving Social Security assets to the private investment market. There are no Social Security assets.
The trust funds are already out of money, as there is no money in them. The scary news is that SSec is already spending more each year than it is taking in as SSec taxes. This requires that the government find the money somewhere, through higher taxes, borrowing, or asking the FedReserve to print it and produce inflation.
( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080905559.html )
8/10/2010 – Allen Sloan
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[edited] From the introduction to the 2009 Social Security trustees report:
“Neither the redemption of trust fund bonds, nor interest paid on those bonds, provides any new net income to the Treasury, which must finance redemptions and interest payments through some combination of increased taxation, reductions in other government spending, or additional borrowing from the public.”
In other words, the trust fund is of no economic value.
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( http://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/ )
A Summary Of The 2014 Annual Reports by the Social Security and Medicare Boards of Trustees
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Social Security’s total expenditures have exceeded non-interest income of its combined trust funds since 2010 and the Trustees estimate that Social Security cost will exceed non-interest income throughout the 75-year projection period. The Trustees project that this annual cash-flow deficit will average about $77 billion between 2014 and 2018 before rising steeply as income growth slows.
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America’s constitution pretty much mandates a government-run defense system. All else could indeed be privatized. The Postal Service is more a quasi-governmental service, no longer run by the government, but protected from competition for letter mail. A government-run monetary system is pretty much ubiquitous on Earth right now, though Bitcoin and other blockchain currencies are challenging that (watch for regulation and suppression, or subsuming competitors, to try and kill that off). A government-run air traffic control system might well run more efficiently, though I’m not aware of significant problems other than IT issues, which would not be assured of improving under private control.
Otherwise, replacing Social Security with a private system, but making it mandatory and enforced, would merely move the trust fund assets into the private investment market, where it is virtually certain every hedge fund, arbitrage firm, and old-school brokerage would literally claw their way over the competition to take advantage of the trillions mandated to be ‘invested’ in hopefully productive investments. No good can come of this. Even aggressive regulation and investigation/punishment of fraud would only result in losses. If the government mandates participation in such a scheme, It will probably have to operate all of it. And yes, that means I believe we should compel Congress to restore the trust fund entirely, and so secure its viability. If, however, you want a model for operating a pension fund, I can recommend at least one state pension system that is operated responsibly and fairly.
Yes, American is sicker than most realize.
You’re forgetting government-run money system, which forms one half of every transaction; government-run defense system, which consumes trillions of the country’s product year in and year out, government-run education system that coerces millions of children, etc. America is sicker than most realize.
Where would Russia now be on your chart?