At the risk of understatement, I’m not a fan of Keynesian economics.
The disdain is even apparent in the titles of my columns.
- Notwithstanding Keynesian Fantasies, Redistribution Does Not Stimulate Growth
- Japan’s Descent into Keynesian Parody
- Has Keynesian Economics Finally Jumped the Shark?
More Keynesian Primitivism from the Congressional Budget Office
- The Perplexing Durability of Keynesian Economics
- White House Stimulus Report Based on “Keynesian Fairy Dust”
- Four Reasons Why Keynesian Stimulus Does Not Work
- The Keynesian Crackup Continues: From Space Aliens to Food Stamp Stimulus
- Where Are the ’60s Hippies Now that They’re Needed to Fight Keynesianism
- Keynes Was Wrong on Stimulus, but the Keynesians Are Wrong on Just About Everything
- Why Is Keynesian Economics Like a Freddy Krueger Movie?
- The Keynesian Crack-Up
- Keynesian Economics and the Wizard of Oz
And these are just the ones with some derivation of “Keynes” in the title. I guess subtlety isn’t one of my strong points.
That being said, there are some elements of Keynesian economics that are reasonable.
I’ve written, for instance, that reductions in government spending can be temporarily painful because labor and capital don’t get instantaneously reallocated.
And I don’t object to the notion of shifting government outlays so they take place when the economy is weak (assuming, of course, that the spending is for a sensible and constitutional purpose).
So I was very interested to see that Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabarrok of George Mason University have a new video on fiscal policy and the economy as part of their excellent series at Marginal Revolution University.
Interestingly, “Keynes” is mentioned only once, and then just in passing, even though the discussion is about discretionary Keynesian fiscal policy.
Here are my thoughts on the video.
- Near the beginning, Alex discusses how an economic shock can lead to a downturn as households cut back on their normal expenditures. That’s quite reasonable, but I wish there had been some acknowledgement that negative shocks are often the result of bad government policy (i.e., the mistakes that caused and/or exacerbated the recent financial crisis or the Great Depression) .
- There was no discussion of how government can put money into the economy without first taking the money out of the economy via taxes or borrowing (see cartoon below, or my video on the topic). One can argue, of course, that Keynesian policy leads to more consumer spending by borrowing money from credit markets and giving it to people, but doesn’t that simply lead to less investment spending?
Perhaps there’s an implicit hypothesis that banks will just sit on the money in a weak economy, or maybe the assumption is that the government can artificially boost overall spending in the short run by borrowing money from overseas. Analysis of these issues, including the tradeoffs, would be valuable.
- Because of my concerns about government inefficiency, I enjoyed the discussion about targeting vs timeliness, but Keynesians only care about having the government somehow dump money into the economy. And they’ll use any excuse, even a terrorist attack.
- Tyler point out that the textbook view of Keynesian economics is that governments should run deficits when there’s a downturn and surpluses when the economy is strong, but he is understandably concerned that politicians only pay attention to the former and ignore the latter.
- Raising unemployment benefits is not the win-win situation implied by the conversation since academic research shows that longer periods of joblessness when people get money for not working.
- I’m not convinced that adjusting the payroll tax will have significant benefits. What’s the evidence that companies will make long-run hiring decisions based on short-run manipulations of the tax?
- The discussion at the end about fiscal rules got me thinking about how Keynesians should support a spending cap since it means spending can still climb during a recession (even if revenues fall). Of course, the tradeoff is that they would have to accept modest spending increases when the economy is strong (and revenues are surging).
Here’s an amusing cartoon strip on Keynesian stimulus from the same artist who gave us gems on the minimum wage and guaranteed income.
P.S. Since today’s topic is Keynesian economics here’s the famous video showing the Keynes v. Hayek rap contest, followed by the equally entertaining sequel, which features a boxing match between Keynes and Hayek. And even though it’s not the right time of year, here’s the satirical commercial for Keynesian Christmas carols.
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Daniel,
You recently made reference to Nobel Prize winning economists, who are more conservative in their economic opinions. It would, I think, make a good column subject to elaborate on them, particularly if any oft them are more current and actually in the appropriate economic specialties. I think most of your readers are familiar with Friedman and Hayek, but it would be interesting to see what some others have to say.
Jeff Clement Woodstock, GA
Thanks,
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, International Liberty wrote:
> Dan Mitchell posted: “At the risk of understatement, I’m not a fan of > Keynesian economics. The disdain is even apparent in the titles of my > columns. Notwithstanding Keynesian Fantasies, Redistribution Does Not > Stimulate Growth Japan’s Descent into Keynesian Parody ” >
8. When Keyes came up with the alleged irrational behavior of markets (or micro rational but macro irrational) — which supposedly government armed with his theory could from now on correct — he was describing markets in 1930 and basing his theories on the markets of that era.
Today’s markets have internalized a lot more knowledge about the world — including the knowledge that Mr. Keyes himself brought to the surface. Even if Keyes might have had a point in 1930, the market, the collective knowledge of people in 2016, have internalized his theories, explanations and predictions — and are one step ahead of him!
So what he proposed as corrections to address the 1930s now act as even more distortionary policies — which elements of the market can exploit before Keynesianism even applies them. They have become one more predictable opportunity for some people to use government central planning to bring wealth in their direction through political means rather than free enterprise.
It is the fallacy of many intelligent people who often bring some valuable knowledge to the world and get caught up in the hype that their theories are the ultimate truth which will last forever — though to be fair to Keyes — we do not know what he may have thought of today’s perpetual deficit stimulation governments. His thinking might have evolved with 2016 knowledge and he might have actually been quite critical of the slow growth “wealth-allocation-through-politics” mentality that the alleged flag bearers of his theory sell to voter-lemmings.
Dan, been waiting for a balanced paper like this for a long time. The right likes to beat up on Keynes without understanding what he said.
As you point out in your item 4, specifially Keynes wanted to balance the budget over the economic cycle.
And he was also most concerned with using deficit spending when the ‘animal spirits’ as Schumpter called investor confidence was such that the economy was below the liquidity trap. In other words no real rate of interest no matter how low would be cause full employment and savings and investment to be equal.
That is where we are now.
And what we need to get going again is a leadership that will remove the uncertainty tax. Tomorrow when I get my computer back I’ll send you an article I did on the uncertainty tax which shows that if a grand bargain could be achieved real GDP would grow about two $250-$300 billion more per year or almost 2%.
John knubel
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