I speculated last year that the political elite finally might be realizing that higher tax rates are not the solution to Greece’s fiscal situation.
Simply stated, you can only squeeze so much blood out of a stone, and pushing tax rates higher cripples growth and drives more people into the underground economy.
Well, it turns out that even the International Monetary Fund agrees with me. Here’s what the IMF said in its latest analysis about the Greek fiscal situation.
…further progress in reducing the deficit is going to be hard without underlying structural fiscal reforms. The fiscal deficit is now expected to be 9 percent this year, against the program target of 7½ percent. “One of the things we have seen in 2011 is that we have reached the limit of what can be achieved through increasing taxes,” Thomsen said. “Any further measures, if needed, should be on the expenditure side.
This is a remarkable admission. The IMF, for all intents and purposes, is acknowledging the Laffer Curve. At some point, tax rates become so punitive that the government collects less revenue.
This is a simple and common-sense observation, as explained in this video.
Unfortunately, even though the IMF now recognizes reality, the same can’t be said about the Obama Administration.
The President has proposed higher tax rates in his recent budget and it seems he can’t make a speech without making a class-warfare argument for penalizing producers, investors, entrepreneurs, and small business owners.
Yet if you compare American tax rates and Greek tax rates, it seems that the IMF’s lesson also applies in the United States.
The top tax in Greece is 45 percent, which is higher than the 35 percent top rate in America. But this doesn’t count the impact of state income taxes, which add an average of about five percentage points to the burden. Or the Medicare payroll tax, which boosts the rate by another 2.9 percentage points.
So Obama’s proposed 4.6 percentage point hike in the top tax rate almost certainly would mean a higher tax burden in the United States.
Even more worrisome, the U.S. tax rates on dividends and capital gains already are higher than the equivalent rates in Greece. Yet Obama wants to boost double taxation on these forms of retained earnings and distributed earnings.
But there are important cultural differences between the United States and Greece, so there’s no reason to think that the revenue-maximizing tax rates in both nations are the same (by the way, policy makers should strive for growth-maximizing tax rates, not the rates that generate the most money).
That’s why I wrote about the U.S.-specific evidence from the 1980s, which shows that rich people paid much more to the IRS when tax rates were slashed from 70 percent to 28 percent.
But all this analysis may miss the point. Why is the President willing to raise tax rates even if the economy suffers enough damage that the Treasury doesn’t collect any revenue? And if you’re wondering why I might ask such a crazy question, watch this video – especially beginning about the 4:30 mark.
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Dear Dan,
I believe this is an article which might interest you,
http://www.cobdencentre.org/2012/03/henry-hazlitt-economics-in-one-lesson/
Kind regards,
AA
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[higher taxation] does not simply drive people into the underground economy but also, and primarily, makes them either partially or entirely withdraw from the economy, as the value of non-pecuniary ( eg. play guitar, do yoga, spend time with family, at the beach etc. a myriad things that all humans pine for, if they only had enough time away from the cubicle producing for others) and thus non-taxable activities increases relative to economic activities.
Also when it comes to Greece and other geographically privileged environments, one must remember that sunny weather and nice beaches move the Laffer curve to the left. Thus, now, the already heavily taxed Dutch Danes etc. will have to augment their current heavy intra-country redistribution from exceptional Dane to Dane and from exceptional Dutch to mediocre Dutch with an additional layer of redistribution — from dreary weather working Dutch and Dane to sunny beach Greek mediocre. With even the so called “powerhouse” (what a joke!)(*) economies of Europe already riding a growth trendline of 2%, what is the new aggregate European growth trendline going to be? That is Europe’s existential problem in a world that is riding a 5% annual growth trendline. A fate of decline. Good-bye Europe of 1000 sqf apartment family dwellings and 1200 cc cars, and welcome America to that world too…
There is though an important difference between Greek and American tax rates. In Greece, the top tax rate kicks in at a mere 60k euro (about $80k) while in America the top tax rate does not kick in until a much higher multiple of average income. Similarly, across Europe, the top tax rates quickly kick in at 2-3 times average income, plus the ubiquitous VAT paid by all, rich and poor. This, of course, should be a warning to the HopNChange embracing American middle class. In the end, when it comes to taxation, the meat is in the middle class, and they are the ones that will be called to pay for the Relax-someone-will-take-care-of-you HopNChange bill, not the one in a hundred thousand super rich whose incomes could be entirely confiscated (assuming they kept working) and still would barely make a dent to America’s long term economic trajectory of decline (not to mention actually accelerate it).
If American voters have not figured that out by now, then there’s little hope to forestall Francification and decline – because there’s a whole litany of voter bamboozling tricks lined up for them – tricks that have proven effective at misleading much brighter populations than the average American.
As a final reminder, as I never tire repeating, even when you are still on the ascending portion of the Laffer curve, you are most likely at the descending portion of the Rahn Curve – the only curve that matters when it comes to longer term sustainable prosperity. Some countries will, in Darwinian natural selection, avoid the fate of central planning and redistribution. Will America be amongst the selected few? Seems less and less likely every day, as the script of European decline, by redistribution and central planning, seems to be finally and faithfully playing out in this new continent – bamboozling the masses into self destruction.
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(*) The bar has fallen so low in flat effort-reward curve Europe that economies that grow at the effectively declining rate of 2% are labelled “Powerhouse economies”. What a joke indeed – sugar coating decline.
Lib-progs are not interested in results. Only intent.