Back in 2011, I shared a video that mocked libertarians by claiming that Somalia was their ideal no-government paradise.
I pointed out, of course, that the argument was silly. Sort of like claiming that North Korea is the left’s version of policy paradise.
But the video was very clever, and I’m more than willing to disseminate anti-libertarian humor if it’s clever and well done.
Some folks on the left, however, confuse satire with serious argument.
Consider the recent New York Times column by Nicholas Kristof. He wants his readers to think that advocates of small government somehow should be saddled with the blame for the dysfunctional nightmare of South Sudan. Seriously.
After hearing Republican presidential candidates denounce big government and burdensome regulation, I’d like to invite them to spend the night here in the midst of the civil war in South Sudan. You hear gunfire, competing with yowls of hyenas, and you don’t curse taxes. Rather, you yearn for a government that might install telephones, hire a 911 operator and dispatch the police. …Ted Cruz…is clamoring for: weaker government, less regulation… In some sense, you find the ultimate extension of all that right here.
Gee, isn’t Kristof clever. If you don’t support a bankrupt entitlement state and inane over-regulation, then you must want chaos and civil war.
Just in case you think I’m taking him out of context to make his argument look foolish, here are more excerpts.
No regulation! No long lines at the D.M.V., because there is no D.M.V. in the conflict areas. In practice, no taxes or gun restrictions. No Obamacare. No minimum wage. No welfare state to breed dependency. …In a place that might seem an anti-government fantasy taken to an extreme, people desperately yearn for all the burdens of government…that Americans gripe about. …One lesson of South Sudan is that government and regulations are like oxygen: You don’t appreciate them until they’re not there.
Notice how he wants to make it seem like the choice is South Sudan on one hand versus “all the burdens of government” on the other.
To be fair, Kristof does attempt a serious argument later in his column.
Two political scientists, Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson, argue that America’s achievements rest on a foundation of government services… “We are told that the United States got rich in spite of government, when the truth is closer to the opposite,” they write. Every country that journeyed from mass illiteracy and poverty to modernity and wealth did so, they note, because of government instruments that are now often scorned. …What we Americans excel at are our institutions. We have schools, laws, courts, police, regulators, bureaucracies, safety nets — arms of a government that is often frustrating but always indispensable. These institutions are the pillars of our standard of living. …Government, laws and taxes are a burden, indeed, but they are also the basis for civilization.
I haven’t read the work of Hacker and Pierson, but there’s been extensive research about the factors that produce economic growth. So if Hacker and Pierson are merely claiming that certain things traditionally provided by governments – such as rule of law, protection of property rights, enforcement of contracts, courts and police, and national defense – are associated with economic growth, then we’re on the same page.
But that’s an argument for a small state. Indeed, I’ve pointed that the United States (and other nations in the western world) became rich in the 1800s when there was a limited government providing these core “public goods.”
And at the time, there was virtually no redistribution. Not only in the United States, but in other developed nations as well.
The problem is that Kristof and other statists want large welfare states with lots of redistribution. And those are the policies that lead to less prosperity. And perhaps even fiscal chaos.
Indeed, that’s the argument behind the Rahn Curve. A small amount of (properly focused) government is associated with growth. But once the public sector gets too large, then government spending saps a nation’s economy.
To conclude, perhaps there is common ground. If Kristof is willing to admit that a bloated welfare states is misguided, then I’ll be willing to say that no government can lead to South Sudan.
P.S. There are serious scholars who argue “public goods” can be provided privately. Click here for a good introduction to the issue.
P.P.S. Leftists like to share the quote from Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes about “taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.” This statement is even etched in stone at the headquarters of the internal revenue service.
What folks conveniently forget, though, is that Holmes reportedly made that statement in 1904, nine years before there was an income tax, and then again in 1927, when federal taxes amounted to only $4 billion and the federal government consumed only about 5 percent of economic output.
As I wrote in 2013, “I’ll gladly pay for that amount of civilization.”
P.P.P.S. In his column, Kristof uses Trump as a foil even more than Cruz. Since I’m unconvinced that Trump believes in smaller government, I didn’t include those excerpts (while Cruz, even while he has some views I don’t like, seems to be a sincere and principled advocate of economic liberty).
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Zorba pretty much nailed it. Fear not, the Era of big govt that has grown exponentially for 75 years is in the process of imploding. The sovereign debt crisis will be obvious in Europe this year, and spread to Japan before crashing on our shores as a result of a rising dollar and interest rates. The only question that remains is will the people choose freedom or totalitarianism?
As far as Trump vs Cruz. There is only one candidate that is anti-establishment. If permitted, Cruz would remain a politician for as long as his wife and Goldman Sachs employer had use for him. Hitlary will take the Socialist route, but Cruz will take the Fascist path to the same final destination.
There is a reason the establishment is scared to death of Trump. Since the career politician is the root of the problem, that is all any voter needs to know to vote for Trump. Regardless, since the govt bubble is set to pop, there will be an army of little Trumps (and Perot’s, and Paul’s) that take office in 2018. All you rats feeding off the the establishment largess better start working on your backstroke, because I know you don’t have the integrity to go down with the ship.
Just show photos of American cities to see the effects of government that has over expanded. Detroit, Flint, Chicago, St Louis, Newark, Camden sound like inviting places?
Funny what they were like when I was a child 60 years ago.
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Oh yes, when HopNChange manages to build its paradise, you can always return.
Personally I’m waiting, any minute now, to return to Europe.
The issue is not whether high taxes cause a significant proportion of competent people to pack up and go home.
The issue is whether high taxes dampen enough innovation and production incentives (including the small percentage that quits completely) to let our closest competitors move ahead. Motivation also exerts a pivotal pull from young ages and its effects compound dramatically into adulthood.
Things are highly nonlinear when it comes to competitiveness. 10% more expensive or 10% less functionality/value does not mean you sell 10% less. It means you get obliterated by your competitors.
Between two products with the same value and a 10% price difference, what percentage of people buy the more expensive one?
“Oh but the producers of the more expensive product have been given ObamaCare!” Go sell products this way. Go sell them to countries where per capita income is a quarter than yours. Let’s see what they say about your experiment with socialism.
Go tell people in India and the rest of the world: “You folks will have to pay 15% more for western technology cancer treatments, because our employees have Obamacare and other protections”. Let’s see what they say.
Well, they are saying it already! American trendline growth seems to be a new dampened 2%. Closer to the bigger European government continent we’re already imitating…
There will be more. The malaise of slow economic growth reflexively steers voter-lemmings towards more redistribution.
The time to think about the future was long time ago. When America was doing well. But then you made the pivotal mistake: ” We’re so rich! We can certainly afford to become a little more like big government Europe!”
You stepped on the banana peel. You triggered the vicious cycle of bigger government, slower growth, malaise, more desperate redistribution, decline.
You are now living the years of decline. Two percent growth rate, half the world average trendline ARE the declining years.
But there’s no need to despair at the personal level. Just build your salvage boat/ark and keep your eyes open for the next country that builds and sustains economic freedom, so that you can jump ship as American decline compounds.
I can think of the “taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society” motto in a democracy where 49% work and the remaining 51% are IRS employees.
The IRS inscription should say: “Some taxes are the price we pay for IRS propaganda”
Big government is the pillar of slow growth. The pillar of one to one and a half percent growth trendlines to decline. As in Europe. Not only in basket case countries like Greece Italy Spain and France. But also in Germany Sweden Denmark and other counties the American left holds in a pedestal.
Can someone explain to me under what arithmetic does a 1-1.5% growth trendline represent a bright future in a world that is growing along a four percent trendline?