As you can see from this interview, I get rather frustrated by the minimum wage debate. I’m baffled that some people don’t realize that jobs won’t be created unless it’s profitable to create them.
You would think the negative effects of a higher minimum wage in Seattle would be all the evidence that’s needed, but I’ve noted before that many people decide this issue based on emotion rather than logic.
So even though we have lots of evidence already that wage mandates cause joblessness (especially for minorities), let’s add to our collection.
Here are some excerpts from a Wall Street Journal column by Professor David Neumark from the University of California Irvine.
Economists have written scores of papers on the topic dating back 100 years, and the vast majority of these studies point to job losses for the least-skilled. They are based on fundamental economic reasoning—that when you raise the price of something, in this case labor, less of it will be demanded, or in this case hired. Among the many studies supporting this conclusion is one completed earlier this year by Texas A&M’s Jonathan Meer and MIT’s Jeremy West, which reaffirmed that “the minimum wage reduces job growth over a period of several years”… An extensive survey of decades of minimum-wage research, published by William Wascher of the Federal Reserve Board and me in a 2008 book titled “Minimum Wages,” generally found a 1% or 2% reduction for teenage or very low-skill employment for each 10% minimum-wage increase. …let’s not pretend that a higher minimum wage doesn’t come with costs, and let’s not ignore that some of the low-skill workers the policy is intended to help will bear some of these costs.
The column also exposes some of the methodological flaws in studies that claim high minimum wages don’t lead to job losses, so the entire piece is worth reading.
Since we’re on this topic, here’s a great table prepared by Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute. Is anyone shocked to learn that countries with minimum wage mandates have higher unemployment levels, particularly for young people?
I have two big observations and two minor comments in response to this data.
The first big observation is the caveat that minimum wage mandates are just one piece of the economic puzzle. The numbers if Greece, for instance, are miserable for many reasons. The minimum wage mandate is just another straw on the camel’s back. Moreover, it’s possible for a nation to have a decent-performing economy with a minimum wage (see Luxembourg) and a decrepit economy without one (see Italy). It’s the overall burden of government that matters, which is why the rankings from Economic Freedom of the World are the first place to look when determining if a nation is market-oriented or statist.
That being said, Mark’s data certainly shows a correlation between joblessness and minimum wage mandates. Part of the reason for this link is that higher minimum wages are bad for employment, and part of the reason for the correlation is that governments foolish enough to impose minimum wages are probably foolish enough to impose other bad policies as well.
The second big observation is that I periodically encounter leftists who say a minimum wage is needed because employers have all the leverage and would pay workers starvation wages in the absence of a mandate. To which I always respond by asking them, “Then why don’t employers use that leverage to reduce the wages of the 98 percent of workers who make more than the minimum wage?” That shuts down the conversation very quickly.
But now I’ll also ask these folks, “And why aren’t workers in Austria and Sweden paid starvation wages?” Their responses will be amusing.
For my minor comments, I’ll start by noting that Switzerland is a uniquely sensible nation. Voters recently rejected a minimum wage mandate by an overwhelming 3-1 margin. I fear American voters would not be nearly as sensible if we had a national referendum.
My second minor comment is to share this amusing report about Belgian politicians whining that the lack of a minimum wage in Germany (at least as of 2013) was causing “unfair” competition. Oh, the horror!
Last but not least, let’s recycle this great video from the Center for Freedom and Prosperity.
If you have friends and colleagues who lean left but nonetheless are open-minded, please share this video with them.
And let them know that even Janet Yellen of the Federal Reserve has acknowledged that minimum wage mandates are recipe of joblessness.
P.S. I wrote a few days ago to identify several statist policies that cause inequality. Well, I’ve added to that list because it turns out that red tape also can unjustly line the pockets of the rich at the expense of the poor. Make sure to check out the updated version of that post.
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No unions or Low minium wage or no minium wage only increases the profits for the corporations and shareholders plus salaries for management of the corporations those few spend less reducing the amount on money in circulation the overall economy suffers.
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I can understand why minimum wage advocates think the way they do. The only problem is that their position is misguided.
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The problem with comparing the US with european countries with no minimum wage is that the unions have a lot more power in european countries. I’m from Sweden, and although we do not have any minimum wage controlled by law we do have “minimum wages” in the form of collective agreements negotiated by the unions. This is a system I think would be hard to implement in the united states, so comparing the US with european contries is harder than you make it seem.
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From the point of view of leftist politicians, increasing the minimum wage is a win-win. Some people will see their income go up because of the law, and will be grateful to the politicians who passed it. Others will lose their jobs because of the law, and will turn to the government for welfare benefits, and they will then be grateful to the politicians who support increased welfare, which is typically the same people who supported the minimum wage. When businesses point out the costs of an increased minimum wage, the politicians will denounce them as greedy, and use this as an argument for why we need more socialism, winning again.
So a few million people lost their jobs? Minority teenagers are placed in a position where they can’t get a minimum wage job, and with no experience they can never get a better job, so they are trapped in unemployment forever? So what, as long as they vote Democrat?
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the Japanese have some pretty neat robots that could prepare and sell burgers… what will it take? 15 an hr.? 20?
not a bad start-up idea………………….
In the leftist world, the higher wages compensate for the few jobs lost. And the less productive, less qualified and less ambitious also vote by majority. Nine vote to increase their hourly wages from $10 to $11 and the tenth loses his job. In a democracy who wins? The nine who gain a small benefit or the one who suffers the disproportionate damage?
But higher minimum wages also kill other jobs. The higher cost causes your company to succumb to foreign competition triggering layoffs across the board, or even eventual company bankruptcy. Jobs then disappear at all levels.
Sure many jobs have big inertia to being exported, e.g. truck drivers. But if those professions ask for compensation beyond their market equilibrium value, the distorted higher cost they impose will drive companies that directly and indirectly use their services into bankruptcy; especially those companies that are at the margin of losing their worldwide competitiveness. Other professions making more than minimum wage get laid off and then as new job seekers put downward pressure on other professionals.
But the bottom line is that overall productivity, economic efficiency, and most important the compounding prosperity of higher economic growth all decline. In other words, you have taken yet another step towards making your country a middle income country by the latter part of this century. Then you will earn the true average wage. The average worldwide wage of the latter twenty first century (which BTW will still be much higher than today’s average American wage, but a miserous wage nonetheless by the standards of the latter twenty first century).
Reblogged this on Public Secrets and commented:
Progressive city councils (Hello, Seattle and Los Angeles) and state governments (Hiya, California!) have a lot to answer for: pricing out of the job market the very people they claim to want to help — young people and the poor.
The real cost of nominal wages is reflected by the marginal product of labor. i.e. This means that the employer will take employees at a higher minimum wage that are good at producing more for the same hours worked. As an employer, would you prefer to pay 7.25 an hour to someone who does a poor job or 15 and hour to someone who has an output of 4 times the average output of the 7.25 an hour worker? Additionally, lower income has a direct impact in consumer demand. In cases where workers make below C0 of the Y=Co+C1Y consumption equation, the government has to step in an this cost tax payers money. So a higher minimum wage is a trade off from tax payers maintaining C0 to workers becoming more productive in order to create greater output supporting both a higher wage and a higher consumer demand.
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One thing I rarely if ever see mentioned as an effect of minimum wages is illegal immigration. Minimum wage absolutely supports and encourages immigrants to come here illegally and work illegally. I am not saying that if the minimum wage was eliminated today that illegal immigration would stop immediately, but if you are an employer of illegal immigrants why do you employ them? Because they are cheaper than legal immigrants and citizens. If you could offer the same wage to someone legally allowed to work in the U.S. why wouldn’t you want to make it all legitimate? Then we can have a conversation about how to bring in other people in a legal manner that allows us to know who they are to fill any labor shortage.
Hey Dan,
It would be interesting to produce a graph with two lines.
One being the minimum wage over time.
The other being average net or gross government benefits doled out to the non working…retirees excluded…
Intuitively, I’m thinking there is a correlation! Sadly.