I’m currently in Asia, where I just finished a series of speeches about economic policy in China and Hong Kong.
These two jurisdictions offer very powerful lessons about the importance of economic policy.
Hong Kong is supposed to be Nirvana for libertarians. It holds the top spot in the Economic Freedom of the World rankings. It has an optional flat tax. It has a private retirement system. And based on IMF data, government spending “only” consumes 18.4 percent of GDP (compared to 38.6 percent of economic output in the United States and 54.4 percent of GDP in France).
In reality, Hong Kong is far from perfect. It may have a lot more economic freedom than other jurisdictions, but there is widespread government intervention in certain sectors, such as housing. And while a flat tax and spending burden of 18.4 percent of GDP sound good, let’s not forget that the western world became rich in the 1800s when there was no income tax and the public sector consumed less than 10 percent of GDP.
But when you rank countries on the basis of economic freedom, you don’t compare jurisdictions to a nonexistent libertarian utopia. You compare them to other nations. So Hong Kong gets the top spot. And that’s paying dividends. When you look at long-run comparisons with other nations, Hong Kong has grown faster and become more prosperous.
So what about China? This wasn’t my first visit to the country, but it was the first time I went to Shanghai, and it is a very impressive place. It’s obvious that China has enjoyed a lot of growth in the past few decades.
But just as you shouldn’t judge the United States by a visit to Wall Street, it would be a mistake to draw sweeping conclusions about China after a few days in Shanghai.
Indeed, average living standards for all of China are still far below American levels. Moreover, if you look at the Economic Freedom of the World rankings, China still has a lot of room for improvement. It ranks 123rd out of 152 nations, which is not only far below France (#40), but also Greece (#85), Haiti (#98), and Russia (#101).
That being said, China’s score is 6.22 out of 10, which is a vast improvement compared to where it was in 1980, when it had a score of only 4.00.
This has led to some wonderful outcomes. This chart (h/t: Mark Perry) shows the share of the world’s population living on less than $1 per day (blue line) and the share of East Asia’s population with the same level of deprivation (red line). A big reason the red line has fallen so dramatically is that severe poverty in China has largely disappeared.
The real question for China is the degree to which there will be ongoing improvement.
I think it would be good if China became more like Hong Kong and that this led to much higher living standards. Heck, I’d be happy if China became more like Taiwan or South Korea, both of which have become relatively rich nations by moving substantially in the direction of free markets and small government.
But I don’t think this will happen. In one of my speeches, I posed a series of questions, followed by some less-than-optimistic answers.
Is the financial system weak? (because of too much state control over capital flows and investment)
Is there too much cronyism? (with friends and relatives getting favorable access to business)
Will China’s demographics be a problem? (the one-child policy is not just tyrannical, but it also means China’s population is aging)
Is rapid growth sustainable? (in the absence of reforms to boost economic freedom)
Have stimulus plans led to malinvestment? (such as ghost cities and other boondoggles)
Since economists are lousy when they make predictions, it’s quite possible that I’m wrong and my pessimism is unwarranted. For the sake of the Chinese people, let’s hope so.
And what about Hong Kong? I suspect they’ll remain the freest economy in the world. After all, why wreck a good thing?
Then again, the United States was the world’s 3rd-freest economy as recently as 2001. Now, thanks to Bush-Obama statism, we’ve plummeted to 17 in the ranking.
But I doubt Hong Kong policy makers would be equally foolish.
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Just use Excel to show growth rates on a graph using 2%, 3%, and 7%. Even after just 20 years the difference is enormous. America reached the standard of living it has via faster growth. It will fall by the same math.
I would like to point out that Hong-Kong is struggling quite hard to maintain its independence from the Beijing government. There have been demonstration against the way how to representatives of the city are elected, claiming that Beijing had much to say in this respect. Also, their housing market, as mentioned, remains overpriced and there will be realistic expectations about the bubble bursting in the near future. Lest we forget that Hong-Kong citizens invest their money in housing markets abroad.
Mainland China is getting richer, but the consequence is demand of higher wages and more social securities. Their tax burden is lower, but it will increase – as well as it did in ALL countries. Take for example Canada, which used to have around 2% one hunder years ago. Or even beforementioned France. In short, it will start to cost to maintain population happy in the future. So we are yet to see whether the current criticism about Obamacare won’t be compared with some kind of Chinacare public insurance in the future.
Zorba, I loved your response!
Perhaps America’s turn towards decline should be labelled the “Osama-Bush-Obama” era of the great turn. Maybe it was historical coincidence and serendipity, but it was the actions of Osama that pushed aggregate American collectivism into majoritarian status – with catastrophic consequences. First with collectivist military adventures, then with mandatory collectivist internal social policy (of which the second type is the most pernicious due to its inherent entrenchment properties. After all it is easier to leave Iraq and Afghanistan since neither the Iraqis nor the Afghanis vote in the US. But try to privatize SS, Medicare — and now ObamaCare — and you meet the entrenched voter-lemming digging his heels in on his way down the death spiral).
By that metric America’s slide from the #3 spot to #17 is OBL’s biggest accomplishment and that is what will be noted in future history books. Ultimately, the compounding foregone growth will take manifold more lives than his terrorist acts. Countries with that ranking cannot remain on the top of the worldwide prosperity scale for long. The inertia will quickly come to an end.
And the #3 to #17 transition is only the beginning. Even the current economic freedom ranking is on a seriously negative outlook as distressed American voter-lemmings experience for the first time the detrimental long term effects of Euro-style welfare-demotivation and inevitable lower growth. Like many peoples before them, they will predictably flock to the polls with more and more plans to forcibly draft individuals to communal service (and it won’t work, because individuals do not possess the long term motivation of social automata).
In that respect Hong Kong has a more optimistic outlook. Institution of bad policy in Hong Kong will quickly trigger negative effects and feedback. Being a small country Hong Kong lacks inertia, which gives all small countries an advantage, to some extent.
Hong Kong’s greatest threat is been swallowed up by China – which BTW, under the superficial expected condemnation rhetoric will make the OECD very-very happy.
The emerging nations are still very small islands: Hong-Kong, Singapore, Switzerland.., but one can already see how the world seems to be dividing and diverging once again into freedom vs. statism. Once the first few countries cross the threshold and start estimating that abandoning statist institutions like the OECD, the climate control protocols etc. the tax and other coercive collectivism cartels… outweigh the risks and consequences of vindictive retribution, … then the world will have turned the corner on even faster growth. Growth where fantastical things, not available today at any price will be within the reach of common people. But the relative prosperity rankings will have changed. An America that in 2100 is only twice a wealthy as today (as would happen if statism takes hold) will be a wretched place compared to the fantastic wealth of countries that grew by 4-5% for a century.
Finally, China is a country that is still in the process of adjusting to its economic freedom jump from 4.00 to 6.22. It has likely not reached equilibrium yet, so its prosperity has not quite caught up to its 6.22 freedom score yet. By the time it reaches balance, its per capita equilibrium prosperity might be half that of the US (assuming that US ranking losses are not precipitous, which is a big if at this point). That will make China an economy that is bigger than the US and Europe combined. That world will already feel very different to Americans.
Against that back drop, Americans have pinned their hopes on…… ….socialism.
It’s a classic suicide spiral.