Since starting this blog, I’ve periodically shared polling data that gives me hope. Highlights include:
o More than two-to-one support for personal retirement accounts.
o Recognition that big government is the greatest danger to America’s future.
o An increasingly negative view of the federal government.
o More than eight-to-one support for less spending rather than higher taxes.
o Strong support for bureaucrat layoffs and/or entitlement reforms instead of higher taxes.
o And my favorite poll results are the ones showing that voters understand that the goal is less spending, not lower deficits.
Now there’s some new research that is both encouraging and educational. Here’s part of the report from The Hill.
Three-quarters of likely voters believe the nation’s top earners should pay lower, not higher, tax rates, according to a new poll for The Hill. The big majority opted for a lower tax bill when asked to choose specific rates; precisely 75 percent said the right level for top earners was 30 percent or below. The current rate for top earners is 35 percent. Only 4 percent thought it was appropriate to take 40 percent, which is approximately the level that President Obama is seeking from January 2013 onward. The Hill Poll also found that 73 percent of likely voters believe corporations should pay a lower rate than the current 35 percent… Republicans were more likely than Democrats to support lower tax rates for the wealthy, but voters in both parties solidly supported lower rates compared to current law. Eighty-one percent of Republicans favored tax rates below current levels, compared to 70 percent of Democrats. The Hill Poll, conducted by Pulse Opinion Research of 1,000 likely voters, also found broad support for lower rates across income groups. The group most supportive of lowering tax rates on the wealthy below current rates made between $20,000 and $40,000 a year; 81 percent supported tax rates of 30 percent or lower.
This data is important because it shows the value of framing an issue. Instead of defensively responding to Obama’s class warfare, proponents of good tax policy should be making a philosophical/economic point that “nobody in America, no matter how rich or how poor, should have to pay more than one-fourth of their income to government.”
And proponents of class warfare should be put on the spot and asked “what do you think is the maximum tax rate anyone should pay?”
Last but not least, friends of liberty should make the key point that higher tax rates on the so-called rich are merely precursors for higher tax rates on everyone else – as even the New York Times recently admitted.
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The problem is that the education system – run by the government – teaches people to be believers. No need to check out the facts for yourself, believe me!
So people believe politicians when they sound sincere. And yet the art of politics is saying ridiculous things and making them sound sincere. Obama is a great example…
Rather stop believing anyone, which includes me, and check it out for yourself. Then you have personal power because you have experience so you really know, rather than just know about it. Just as you know that you can’t delegate your exercise, you have to do it personally! Life Strategies is all about these important distinctions, see for example:
http://www.lifestrategies.net/issues/index.html
The trouble is, I know plenty of people who will side with me on nearly all of these issues when we talk about it this level.
Then they still vote for the wrong people. Sometimes they seem genuinely confused I believe the folks they vote for are for these things. When you try to point out that they are not, they just tune you out.
Other seem to relish in their cognitive dissonance. They’ll tell me with a smirk that even though they think all this stuff, they’re still gonna vote for their guy because he’s “their guy.” It’s just brand appeal. It’s like buying a Coke or, maybe more like buying a Prius.
Word of advice for Clarence. Take a look at the government spending history.
Last I checked, this was a free country, and except for the mandates allowed and imposed by the government, most transactions are entered into willingly.
Bill Gates gets my money and I get the computer I want. Apple gets my money and I get an iphone I want. GM gets my money and I get the Honda I want after voluntarily giving my money to Honda also. Analogy breaking down here a little. Kaiser gets my moeny and I get the health insurance coverage whether I want it or not. Forgot where I was going with this.
Oh yeah. Most of those 10% are getting a share of the wealth because I am voluntarily giving it, because they are giving me something that I perceive is of equal or greater value in return. Only quits working that way when the government steps in and decides for me, at gunpoint.
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Clarence Swinney. You say “The 10% who own almost 80% of our wealth and take 50% of our individual income” But how come what each persons owns and earns suddenly becomes “our” wealth and “our” individual income!”
You obviously disagree with personal responsibility! But isn’t that part of what made America great? If you have a sense of humor rather than just a sense of entitlement paid for by others, then check out the consequences…
http://www.jumbojoke.com/but_you_dear_reader_are_blameless.html
@Clarence – You’re right, we cut taxes, but you missed the second part of the advice – the part where we also cut spending. We can’t do that until we start expecting people to start taking care of themselves again and start reforming our entitlements so that people can’t receive a free ride off the shoulders of hard-working folks. Any kinds of welfare anyone receives should at the very most be only a hand up and not a perpetual hand-out like it’s become now.
@Clarence, actually we DIDN’T follow Dan’s advice, we followed yours. We borrowed money from our children and grandchildren to “care” for people who should be cared for by the family or the church, not the state. We then grew the number of people that needed “help” from the state year after year after year, forcing those of us to pay for its addiction to “helping” people. We destroyed the reputations of decent people who merely wanted Americans to be responsible for their actions and their futures. We impugned and mocked those who wanted America to be self-disciplined as the Founders intended. If we had followed Dan’s advice, you’d be just as stupid, but richer.
Clarence obviously does not know where wealth comes from. Here is a refresher for you – wealth comes from individual effort or the effort of groups working in voluntary cooperation. It does not grow on trees nor is it owned by the tribe – yours or anyone else’s.
Cameron Craig
Denver
Dan, we followed your advice. Cut taxes. Since 1980 we borrowed 14,000 Billion. Thanks Dan. The hundreds of billionaires in America and China thank you very much. The 10% who own almost 80% of our wealth and take 50% of our individual income thank you Dan so very very much.
The 70,000,000 who get 13% of individual income thank you Dan so very very much that it is not 5%.
Yes Dan, you are a King.
p.s. Trump asked keep up good work get it to 5%.
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