Welcome Instapundit readers! Canada’s fiscal restraint (relative to the U.S., at least) is not the only positive development. Canada also has privatized its air traffic control system and fought against European schemes for bank taxes. No wonder Canada now ranks above America in both the Economic Freedom of the World Index and the Index of Economic Freedom.
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Since I’ve written before about Canada’s remarkable period of fiscal restraint during the 1990s, I am very pleased to see that the establishment press is finally giving some attention to what our northern neighbors did to reduce the burden of government spending.
Here are some key passages from a Reuters story.
“Everyone wants to know how we did it,” said political economist Brian Lee Crowley, head of the Ottawa-based think tank Macdonald-Laurier Institute, who has examined the lessons of the 1990s. But to win its budget wars, Canada first had to realize how dire its situation was and then dramatically shrink the size of government rather than just limit the pace of spending growth. It would eventually oversee the biggest reduction in Canadian government spending since demobilization after World War Two. …The turnaround began with Chretien’s arrival as prime minister in November 1993, when his Liberal Party – in some ways Canada’s equivalent of the Democrats in the U.S. – swept to victory with a strong majority. The new government took one look at the dreadful state of the books and decided to act. “I said to myself, I will do it. I might be prime minister for only one term, but I will do it,” said Chretien. …The Liberals thought their first, rushed budget – delivered in February 1994, three months after taking office, was tough. It reformed unemployment insurance entitlements, and cut defense and foreign aid… The upstart Reform Party, then the main national opposition party, had campaigned on “zero-in-three” – balance the budget in three years. “We were always trying to go faster,” said Reform’s leader at the time, Preston Manning. …The Liberals were stung by the criticism and, at first reluctantly but then with gusto, they got out the chain saws. …Cutting government spending programs went against the Liberal grain. Contrary to the Reform Party, the Liberals saw a more important role for government. Paul Martin now has a lasting reputation as the finance minister who slayed Canada’s deficit, but the conversion from spender to cutter was painful. His father, also called Paul, had helped create Medicare, Canada’s publicly funded health care system, and suddenly here was Paul Junior contemplating massive cuts.
This is a remarkable story. My only real quibble is that the fiscal restraint actually started the year before the Liberal Party took power, as the chart (click to enlarge) illustrates.
But the key thing to understand is that Canada enjoyed a five-year period when government spending increased by an average of only 1 percent each year.
There are more good passages in the story. Can anybody imagine Obama doing this?
At one 1994 cabinet meeting, Martin announced a spending freeze. A minister put forward a project that needed funding but Chretien cut him off, reminding him of Martin’s freeze. A second minister raised his hand to ask for funding, and a testy Chretien told the cabinet that the next minister to ask for new money would see his whole budget cut by 20 percent. …The ratio of spending cuts to tax hikes was seven-to-one. Asked why, Chretien said simply: “There was more need on one side than the other.” …Cuts ranged from five percent to 65 percent of departmental budgets.
By the way, while there were a few tax hikes implemented, they were trivial. Tax revenue as a share of GDP rose from 44.2 percent of GDP to 44.5 percent a GDP, an increase that probably was going to happen anyhow as Canada’s economy recovered.
So what were the results of Canada’s spending freeze?
The following passage has some numbers, but the second chart (click to enlarge) shows that the burden of government spending in Canada (right axis) fell from 53 percent of GDP to 44 percent of GDP in just five years. And red ink (left axis) completely disappeared.
The deficit disappeared by 1997 and the debt-to-GDP ratio began a rapid decline – it is now at about 34 percent. …After wrestling the deficit to the ground, Canada enjoyed what Crowley calls the payoff decade, outperforming the rest of the G7 on growth, job creation and inward investment. From 1997 to 2007, it averaged 3.3 percent economic growth. while U.S. growth averaged 2.9 percent.
The most important thing to understand is that Canada’s economy improved because the burden of government spending was reduced. And because the underlying disease was being treated, this meant two of the symptoms of excessive government – deficits and debt – also became less of a problem.
Last but not least, there are rewards for good policy. Just as Reagan enjoyed a landslide in 1984 after sticking to his guns, Canada’s Liberal Party also reaped the benefits of doing the right thing.
The final lesson is that you can impose painful spending cuts and still win elections. Chretien went on to win two more back-to-back to form majority governments, a rare feat. ,,,Drummond, who later moved to the private sector and is now an advisor helping the Ontario provincial government slash its deficit, noted that governments on the right and left in Saskatchewan, Alberta and Ontario won more voter support after their own budget cuts in the 1990s.
Here’s a video I narrated that looks at the Canadian experience, as well as similar good reforms in New Zealand, Ireland, and Slovakia.
Last but not least, let’s put all of this in context. As demonstrated here, the U.S. would enjoy a balanced budget in just eight years if politicians could be convinced to limit spending so that it increased by 1 percent each year.
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One of the best posts ever! I will share it with a lot of people here in Costa Rica!
I think Tedd.. that I’m just getting my speakers mixed up on here… I apologize for that.
All the Best,
J
http://njnnetwork.com/2011/04/conservatives-have-dismal-record-on-finances/
I am not sure where you get your numbers. But you need to take a look at some good graphs. You’ll see a similar one in the US.
“I’m not wrapped up in partisanship.”
I’m having a really hard time squaring that with:
“ALL BECAUSE OF CONSERVATIVE ideology” (et cetera).
Your entire point of view seems to be premised on partisanship. How else to explain that you seem to think you know what my point of view on budgets is, even though I haven’t expressed one?
My argument against your argument, Jack, is that you think the Conservatives got Canada into a deep debt hole. The facts of how the debt grew from 1975 to where it is today – the year-by-year accumulation – say otherwise.
You think Conservative policies are bad. They aren’t. Conservatives balanced the operating budget while not losing any of the big ticket entitlements put into place by Liberals. Conservatives negotiated trade agreements and tax reforms which promoted massive revenue growth to pay for those entitlements and reduce the deficit. Conservatives started fiscal restraint before the Chretien/Martin team took office.
I’m not wrapped up in partisanship. I have no card to any political party and have voted for all (but the Bloq) in elections.
Please don’t squeeze me into American binary politics.
I don’t fit 🙂
That’s what the continual myth is. But how are they actually worse for the country than Republicans have been?
I mean… they all live in the bad system, but how many Democrat Senators have been shown to take money compared to the Republicans?
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7388130n
“Notice how you continue the mantra of “balanced budget” like its important…”
Say what? I was talking about how the Westminster system works, vis-a-vis the system in the U.S., and how political culture expresses itself in Canada — something I thought American readers would find interesting and useful. Balanced budgets are entirely secondary to what I said. If you weren’t so wrapped up in partisanship you would have easily seen that.
Democrats have put petty politics and graft ahead of the good of the country, and now we’re beginning to pay the price for their malfeasance.
My point is your problem is not spending more than you bring in. I’m not saying that’s not a problem. My point is your system is broken.
If you fixed the system, the issues about funding the appropriate social programmes and funding your government properly wouldn’t be an issue.
Jack:
Thank you for summarizing the differences between Canada and the US. Except that this doesn’t matter. Spending more than you take in is bad, and will run you into the ground, no matter the colour of your flag. Or skin.
So, leaving those cultural issues aside, what is your point?
So Brad, your argument against my argument that you’re looking only at bottom line fiscal issues is to point me to the federal fiscal data sites.
Do you see the problem with that?
That’s like saying the Bible is right because the Bible says it is.
J
Go learn the meaning of primary/operating balance and review the federal fiscal data of the past 50 years from the Government of Canada’s own departmental web sites. Then rejoin the discussion if you think my facts are wrong.
You can assert anything you want, but prove nothing by assertion.
Wow Tedd. Your sigh has really changed my mind. 🙂
Notice how you continue the mantra of “balanced budget” like its important, and yet when Republicans and Conservatives are in power, it is as meaningless as Dick Cheney saying. “Deficits don’t matter” ?
(Sigh.) Jack is such a great example of why the Liberals had to campaign against balancing the budget in order to get into power so they could balance the budget. I wish that weren’t how things worked in Canada, but it is.
Once again.. you’re trying to make it all fiscal issues. IT never is.
I’m sorry. It just isn’t.
Reality is not so simple.
But the fact remains we didn’t have a surplus. We had a massive debt. That’s why the Liberals had to cut. They did it because the Conservatives (see the pattern?) looked at the world through only tax cuts and devastated the economy because of it. The only Conservative NOT to do this in Canada was Ralph Klein because he had the Oil Sands to keep pumping in the funds needed to make the province survive. Take a look at Mike Harris who was the Premiere of Canada’s economic engine at the time- Ontario. He took the reins from a very left of centre part- The New Democrats. Who had a budget shortfall of 300 million, and made that 7.2 BILLION in just eight years- the BEST eight years of the nineties. How did he do it? By acting like a Conservative. Cutting everything including health officials (See Walkerton) and selling off Crown (public) assets to private companies. What happened? Ontario has been in the hole ever since and gone from being the strongest province to one of the weakest. ALL BECAUSE OF CONSERVATIVE ideology.
It’s time folks spent a little less time counting pennies, and a little more time focusing on how the whole system of community, society, civics, and government operate. Karl Polanyi.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Polanyi Is a good primer. And after that maybe look at the guy who created the Canadian Public Health Care system.
>Did you point out that the Conservatives ran Canada fiscally into the ground?
There is much in that rant that is incorrect, but the quoted point is exceptionally egregious. The principal of Canada’s existing debt was chiefly amassed during the years 1975-1987, most of which was a period of firmly Liberal government (and strongly left-leaning in the case of Trudeau’s governments). Through the high interest period of the 1980s, costs of servicing that debt increased the pile. Canada’s Conservatives took the first step to eliminating the problem by wrestling the operating (primary) balance into a surplus.
When you buy something with debt, the real cost of the item includes the cost of the debt. The debt costs are not “expenses” to be attributed to later governments.
It is reasonable to blame policies of the Liberal Party and the generally poor economic conditions of the 1970s and 1980s, but not the Conservative Party.
As noted, the real impetus was the demands of the Reform (split from Conservative) Party. Not noted is that the real work began with the Mulroney Conservatives back in 1987 (IIRC) with a return to a federal primary (operating) surplus (which lasted about 20 years until recently). Also not noted is that falling debt servicing costs and improvement in the revenue/expense gap (ie. economic growth) were more important than cuts; these can at least in part be attributed to the GST (VAT) and FTA/NAFTA. Also not noted is that the cuts in large part consisted of reducing transfer payments to other levels of government, which is where the actual hard work of dealing with the cuts had to be done. And, Chretien would not likely have done much without Martin pushing.
The US has none of these advantages, which Canada had in 1993:
– a primary (operating) surplus
– bipartisan commitment to deficit elimination and debt reduction
– room for debt servicing costs to fall significantly
– room to cut transfers to other levels of government, and other levels of government capable of dealing with it without “bankruptcy”
– prospects of economic growth which would cause revenue growth to outstrip spending growth
– a single executive/legislative body with an ineffectual/weak Senate
Relative to that list, what the US must do first is remove politicians committed to policies which tend to retard employment and economic expansion and replace them with those who will promote economic activity elsewhere than in the public sector.
“Canada’s parliamentary system allowed this to occur. The finance minister writes the budget. No committees, no hog-trading, no amendments. Take it or leave it. With a majority government, it gets passed. End of story. ”
Well, somewhat. I agree, though, that a majority government has far more power than a President does. It usually is discussed along the lines of a “democratic dictatorship”, usually by the party that isn’t in power.
Budgets do, however, have to be debated and passed (although “debate” is a bit of a misnomer at times (http://preview.tinyurl.com/7ons2dv) and legislatures can vote to send items to committees, but as you say, a majority will just invoke closure and be done with it.
BTW, although Canada doesn’t have the same style of “earmarks”, be assured that pork barrels do contain Canadian bacon as well…just search for any articles on what the Conservatives spent (and where) for the G8 meetings last year.
This is such a crock. I’m sorry. It’s all well and good to simplify everything to cutting down government, but that’s not why Canada is successful , and its not why the Liberals were successful. Did you not know that they were run out of office in the last election for the Sponsorship Scandal? That they too had spent money wildly in different ways?
This is the problem with the Right. They are constantly looking for simplified answers and this is why they can’t govern properly. Government is not business. It’s not meant to be a business. It’s not a bottom-line production. IF you REALLY want to be like Canada then you have to recreate America from the ground up. You have to nationalize the Fed. You have to have national public healthcare. You have to fund a national public communication system like the CBC. You have to believe in a mosaic approach and not a melting pot. You have to kiss your love of guns in the 2nd Amendment goodbye. You have to do a whole lot of things to demand accountability from your government that you’re not willing to do because its so damned easy to just complain about government and sell off the public trust to corporate assets which is your problem in the first place.
Did you point out that the Conservatives ran Canada fiscally into the ground? Just like Reagan raised taxes ten times and tripled the governments ranks? Did you point out that Clinton was the one that walked America back from disaster? That Bush got you right back into the hole worse than before? The facts are, that Liberals can govern, Conservatives cannot. And its not just about finances. That’s only part of it.
I’m glad a Conservative friend of mine sent me this link. As a Canadian, its my pleasure to help clear up the misconceptions you guys have about us, and about yourselves.
“The Westminster system is a far superior system when it comes to getting things done.”
Simultaneously a strength and a weakness. The Westminster system is build on the presumption of representatives who are honest and clever, and works very well when they are. Unfortunately, it performs equally poorly when they are not.
The U.S. system is designed on the presumption that representatives will often be venal, and seeks systemic balance as a counter. But, when representatives are able to re-brand venality as beneficence, it doesn’t work so well.
Canada’s parliamentary system allowed this to occur. The finance minister writes the budget. No committees, no hog-trading, no amendments. Take it or leave it. With a majority government, it gets passed. End of story.
In the US, everybody wants their piece of the pie. You need to buy off enough people or the budget doesn’t get passed.
The Westminster system is a far superior system when it comes to getting things done.
Great article, and it gives a good overall view of the picture up here. Just to fill in a few bits:
1) Chretien actually benefited from a split right-of-centre vote: the Reform party and the Progressive Conservatives (yes, we realize the contradiction…) ran against each other. While the article is right that the Liberals would be considered the Democrats of Canada, and the Reform Party the Republicans, the PCs would be that in-betweeners who, in our system, allowed the Liberals to get in with nowhere near a majority of votes.
2) Martin actually proved the axiom “as a prime minister, he was a great finance minister”, as he was a complete failure as Prime Minister (although a great deal of this was internal Liberal politics: Chretien hated him, and Martin’s minions overstepped the partisan boundaries of party politics by beginning the leadership campaign years before Chretien was ready to go, and he’s a very, very petty man who never forgets these things).
3) the Ontario government at the time was led by a very right-wing Progressive Conservative (the Reform Party didn’t run provincially, so its PC vs. Liberal vs. NDP (who would be the Democrats run by Kucinich) by the name of Mike Harris, aka, Mike the Knife. He closed hospitals, cut welfare by 25%, etc., resulting in riots at the Legislature, and generally took all the blame for the cuts while Chretien basked in the glow of much greater support. BTW, the next government, a Liberal one, kept the hospitals closed and didn’t increase the welfare. Again, conservatives do the heavy lifting…
It’s important for Americans to know that the Liberal Party, which exercised this fiscal restraint in the 90s, got into office by campaigning against fiscal restraint. They portrayed the Conservative and Reform parties as being willing to “throw grandmothers into the street” (yes, I believe that phrase was actually used) for campaigning in favour of fiscal restraint. So the important lesson for Americans is that it was the relatively less democratic nature of the Westminster Parliamentary system, primarily, that enabled this to happen. “The people” did not want fiscal restraint.
I’m not arguing that the Westminster system is superior — far from it. But I suspect almost any country is more likely to get fiscal restraint “through the back door,” so to speak, than through a popular movement.
A major driving force for Canadian budget cuts has been the shrinking political influence of Quebec, particularly since the (barely) defeated referendum of 1995. The Reform Party was the party of “the West wants in”, and their political inheritors, Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative Party, are now firmly at the helm. His predecessors as Prime Minister, Paul Martin, Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney and Pierre Trudeau (we’re back to 1968 now, folks) were all Quebecers, and all but Mulroney were Liberals.
The waning of that ascendency has allowed Western Canadian values of respect for independent business, thrift, and a much reined-in welfare state, to rise. (Harper’s in the middle of repealing the Long Gun Registry – and shredding its records – too). Quebec Liberal Finance Minister Paul Martin’s deficit cutting in the 1990s was based in a reaction within the Liberal party to the Reform party’s growing clout.
In the US, the best comparison is the Reagan revolution through his terms as governor and into his presidency, and it had very similar results. As that was “morning in America”, this is now a very similar “morning in Canada”. Conservative? Harper has put the Royal back in Royal Canadian Navy and Royal Canadian Air Force. Now that’s Conservative, folks.
For the US to follow in these footsteps, a similar political movement is necessary. It’s almost here, as shown in the 2010 congressional elections. In Canada, this movement has had very strong leaders – first Reform leader Preston Manning, and now Conservative Prime Minister Harper, who began as one of Manning’s Members of Parliament. They’re both from Alberta, which is Texas, only tougher.
Who will step in front of the US Tea Party movement? There’s your question. You desperately need a leader for that movement. Now go find one.
It’s not that Washington is in denial so much as it is hostage to a device of their own making; government unions. Unions like SEIU provide the big money to run for office, provide the campaign workers and, most importantly, turn a blind eye to any misdeeds by their candidate. What is required is a Wisconsin styled reform on the national level combined with a dose of Louisiana ethics legislation.
As a Canadian, I recall the situation somewhat differently. The 1993 election was debated on the amount of fiscal restraint the Reform Party was proposing. The Liberals and Chretien laughed at the prudence shown by Reform Party Leader Preston Manning. Once in power the Liberals found that the investment community would no longer fund the governments ridiculous spending. (10% budget deficits, almost 100% debt to GDP).
There were no wise men in the Liberal party. They were forced to cut by the markets unwillingness to fund the deficits. This is how the prudence came about.
And what happened to the Reform Party? Well Preston Manning took a well earned retirement from politics, but his chief political advisor, our current Prime Minister Steven Harper has been running the show for the last three terms.
My question is what did it take for Canadian politicians to see the reality of their problem? Washington is in denial, and until the electorate and the politicians come to grips with the enormity of our problems, they won’t even start implementing reforms.
Any idea if Mr. Martin would move here and run for Congress?