Last year, I commented on a handful of crazed environmentalists who were sterilizing themselves because children boost carbon emissions. I thought this was a wonderful form of natural selection since it meant at least some statists weren’t passing on their…um…peculiar genes.
We have a related story, which also comes from the United Kingdom. Some nutjobs have launched an anti-bathing campaign because it is bad (so we are told) to use water and emit carbon. Having traveled extensively in Europe, I can say from painful experience that there already are lots of people who are on board with this effort, though I doubt it’s because they are environmentally sensitive.
Since I’m a glass-half-full kind of guy, I’m looking at the bright side of this development. I suspect that dirty, smelly, and greasy people are less attractive to the opposite sex. This probably means they are less likely to reproduce, so we should look at this as an indirect form of natural selection. It’s not a sure-fire approach, like the story mentioned above, but one hopes that it will reduce the birth rates of oddball leftists. Here’s a blurb from the The Guardian.
In a bid to reduce his carbon footprint to the absolute minimum, environmentalist Donnachadh McCarthy, 51, limits his showers to about twice a week. “The rest of the time I have a sink wash,” he says. “I believe that I’m as clean as everyone else.” It has helped him to get his water consumption down to around 20 litres a day – well below the 100 to 150 average in the UK. As McCarthy points out, it’s only recently that we have expected people to bathe or shower every day. “When I was a kid,” he says, “the normal thing was to bathe once a week.” Head much further back into history, and we find Elizabeth I bathing once a month, and James I apparently only ever washing his fingers. In 1951, almost two-fifths of UK homes were without a bath, and in 1965, only half of British women wore deodorant. Now we have begun to fetishise extreme cleanliness, to create the kind of culture where, as McCarthy says, it’s not entirely unusual for people staying in hotels to churn through 1,000 litres of water a day – showering in the morning, after a sauna, after the swimming pool, before dinner, before bed. The international market for soaps of all kinds is now $24bn a year. And some dermatologists fear that this intense, regular washing is stripping our skin of germs that could actually be beneficial to us, that help our skin stay healthy, balanced and fresh.
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I don’t know about saving water, but the idea of bathing twice a week is hardly appalling filth. He said we shouldn’t bathe as often as you do, and of course you jump out with a clickbait headline “”environmentalists oppose bathing!!!”, as if he said no one should ever bathe again. Knee jerk reactions like that make you just as bad as the other people. The guy is totally right that modern rates of bathing would be considered ridiculous to people not that many decades ago, and the fact is that the only reason YOU can smell all those “dirty Europeans” is that you’re not accustomed to it. When you live around people like that for a week, or less even, you don’t even notice it any more, and there is a big difference between the smell of someone who hasn’t bathed in months and the smell of someone who’s built up a little underarm odor because he hasn’t had a shower since the day before yesterday. Basically, there IS no actual reason to bathe as often as modern people do; it is something we do because soap companies started convincing people to bathe more often so they could sell more soap starting in the early 1900’s. All you’re doing by showering every day (or three times a day) is making soap companies rich and reinforcing a pointless modern obsession. That’s ignoring that scientists ARE saying that bathing so often could be harmful, killing off natural oils and bacteria that are SUPPOSED to be there. Natural oils keep your skin healthy and moisturized. You pay soap companies a bunch of money, so you can scrub them all off. Then when your skin is dried and/or wrinkling, you pay them even MORE money for more products to cover up the damage you’ve done. Great thinking.
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And since this wacko baths only twice a week then he must realy stink at least five days a week
Stark raving stupid enviromentalists wackos as if bathing was suddenly offensive to their pagan deities like GAIA they worship at their rediculous earth day celebrations Do they want us all to stink like they do I suppose they will now demand we stop drinking water and using dehydrated what ever
As promised, I am posting some crazy predictions made by some of the highest priests of the co2 demonizing pseudoscience. This year, thanks to EL NIÑO, has been WARM http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/04/rss-global-temperature-anomaly-takes-a-dive/ so in my opinion (IMO) the co2 scare will not die so soon. This temperature is SATELLITAL temperature, satellites continuosly scan the whole planet and give us a pretty accurate temperature.
In this WattsUpWithThat (WUWT) post one can read some failed predictions http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/22/a-little-known-but-failed-20-year-old-climate-change-prediction-by-dr-james-hansen/ made by Dr. James Hansen, the “leading global authority on climate change”
In the late 1980s, -more than 20 years ago-, in an interview sitting in his Manhattan office, Dr. Hansen predicted several things in Manhattan that in 20-30 years -i.e. NOW- would be VERY different: There would be severe water shortages in Manhattan, windows would have tape on Manhattan island because of high winds and West Side Highway in Manhattan would be under water!.
Well, it never happened! In that post you can see, directly from the University of Colorado, that sea level at Manhattan Island has been flat for the last 25 years, so that sea increase will not happen even in 30 years.
As for hurricanes and cyclones, one can see in this WUWT post http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/10/08/global-tropical-cyclone-activity-is-at-33-year-lows/ that global that global cyclone activity is at 33 year lows!
I will come later with more stuff because I want my posts to remain SHORT.
My former comment was probably a mistake. I know now a lot of people will rant against me: Brazilian women, european women, american women, will say ugly things against me…
I was just posting my toughts on a matter that has always intrigued me a lot, I hope someone can shed some light instead of insulting me because I know insults will come.
Mr Zorba:
Take a metro in São Paulo, Brazil, and tell me how many people smell bad… You will have a VERY hard time finding someone who smells bad.
Take a metro in São Paulo and tell me how many people are ill tempered or not courteous… Go to São Paulo and you will be totally astonished when almost everybody is kind, curteous and smiles to you… And they will do the most amazing things to help you and to make you feel fine.
And you will see huge amounts of women of extreme attractiveness and perfect bodies.. And almost everybody will be well groomed, specially the women.
And women often will NOT wear loose tshirts, jeans and tennis shoes but INSTEAD they will wear mini sets, leather pants, high heels while being perfectly groomed…
I am not being a male chauvinist, I am just stating facts that anyone can see… One must be dead to do not see that.
There is a somewhat strong correlation between availability of water and physical beauty… when you travel through South America you must be dead to not realize that. And the girls from the wet places tend to have a very uninhibited sexuality … That is too very hard to ignore.
In the south american/caribbean non desert places that I know it is TABOO not bathing every single day… And in Western Europe they often say that South America is DIRT poor, which is not, western europeans often believe the absurd keynesian figures that say that Norway has 94 times the GDP per head of Nicaragua. But in those places with availability ot water, eventough less rich than Western Europe, people take a daily bath as if it was religion.
Since Mr. Mitchell talks about sex attractiveness and bathing I dare to talk about these sensitive issues… Otherwise I would have never said a word about this.
I always tought that so many indians died in South America because our habits of EXTREME cleanliness, that allowed a very unhinihted sexuality, meant DEATH when confronted with unbathed europeans that became resistent to an enormity of bacteria, because they seldom took baths..
Sorry for the “sensitive” issues, but Mr. Mitchell talked about this…
Mr. Mitchell says:
…” Having traveled extensively in Europe, I can say from painful experience that there already are lots of people who are on board with this effort, though I doubt it’s because they are environmentally sensitive.”…
This is not a humor forum but I got a BIG laugh.. Sorry for the europeans on the forum, I know they are nice people.
Often western europeans are putting their shortcomings as qualities. Since they often live in tax hells where lots of things are crazy expensive because of exorbitant taxes then they have a much lower consumption -and lower production- than americans who have much lower consumption taxes -there is no european VAT in the USA-
And therefore europeans consume considerably less than US citizens… And europeans often allege that such state of things is actually a quality!! They often criticize americans high consumption levels
Same thing with bathing. When I lived in Europe a daily shower represented big money for many in the working class so many there may not take showers because that is too much money.
On the crazinesses of enviromentalists, I will make a post some other day showing the crazy predictions of the global warming religion high priests… One of them even predicted that by year 2000 we should be all dead! I promise to bring those crazy predictions soon.
I would not want to miss this rare opportunity to disagree with Mr. Mitchell…
I agree with Mr. Mitchell’s main point; the absurdity and masterminding oppression of legislated water usage mandates. A market equilibrium price for water (equilibrium price could end up being higher or lower than current cost) is preferable to a centrally planned web of mandates, fines for certain uses and simultaneous subsidies for other uses.
That being said, I’d have to disagree with Mr. Mitchell’s personal assertions about body odors, his implication that they represent unbearable externalities, and their presumed correlation with meager reproduction rates.
If some find not-recently-washed people offensive in public transportation (or other mandatory attendance places like public agencies) then the main problem is the one size fits all public transportation monopoly, not the washing habits of the patrons. BTW, the more prevalent European body odor experienced by foreign travelers to the old continent has to do mostly with exertion while wearing fashionable clothes in an attempt to stand out from the masses and temperature variations inherent in using public transportation, as well as lower wealth and thus higher cost/bigger hassle of taking a bath.
But back to the main issue in the post, if I were to step into the realm of personal opinions that should have nothing to do with public policy,…
…not all lack of washing results in unpleasant body odors, though the body odors that most people develop within the confines of a stressful sedentary office life may very well be offensive.
It could also be the case that perhaps, just perhaps, a species that has been in evolutional equilibrium with its own body oils for a few million years, may not, after all, benefit from suddenly switching to every day washing. On balance, the compounding action of natural selection would pummel organisms that waste energy secreting skin oils, which, on top, are also directly or indirectly detrimental to their evolutional success.
Finally (though I understand that correlation does not imply causation) if one were to randomly sample people throughout the world, they would probably find that the smelliest people have the most children (at least in countries that do not penalize reproduction). So the prospect of smelly people becoming extinct seems rather remote. If anything, the opposite seems to be happening.
Contrary to Mr. Mitchell’s assertion, body odor may provide significant clues about one’s health and genetic reproductive desirability/compatibility. In that sense, the presence of odor enhances natural selection and thus the potential evolutional success of a race/species (well, at least used to enhance it – whether that is still true in a modern world is much less certain).
…But in any case, if Mr. Mitchell comes by my town, I promise, I’ll wash before stopping to say the much anticipated hello and express admiration for his work 🙂 …
If you want to get a feel for this without traveling to europe, you can ride public transportation in san francisco.
see, this is one reason I’m glad to have had a third child, even so late in life. She can grow up to be another good conservative, while the enviros you mention, Dan, extinguish themselves.