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		<title>By: A Libertarian Quandary: Should Drugs Be Legalized if It Means Bigger Government? &#124; International Liberty</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: You Be the Judge: Were Mr. and Mrs. Hakken Right to Take their Children and Flee to Cuba? &#124; International Liberty</title>
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		<title>By: You Be the Judge: Should the Law Discourage People from Becoming Vagrants? &#124; International Liberty</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: You Be the Judge: Should Troublemakers Be Segregated from the General Population? &#171; International Liberty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Is This a Case of Government Overreach or an Example of Proper Law Enforcement? &#171; International Liberty</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Putting politicians on trial, vigilante justice, brutal tax collection tactics, child molestation, pay levels at government-owned firms, sharia law, healthcare, incest, speed traps, jury nullification, and vigilante [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jbird</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Live by the sword, die by the sword, says I. If the government owns a controlling share, then you should either get the government out or submit to their rules. sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live by the sword, die by the sword, says I. If the government owns a controlling share, then you should either get the government out or submit to their rules. sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Kadlec</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Kadlec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cure, government imposed pay caps,  is worse than the disease, crony capitalism, because inevitably the ruling class will seek to extend its power over all private business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cure, government imposed pay caps,  is worse than the disease, crony capitalism, because inevitably the ruling class will seek to extend its power over all private business.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan, you could right a book about this topic. 

Any government entity should have pay caps, including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Why are they any different from the Post Office -- including their power to screw things up royally?  Otherwise, they quickly and easily become &quot;legal&quot; ways to pay off the politically-connected at taxpayer expense.  The bonuses paid for poor performance at these entities is a total rip-off of the taxpayers, who also have to pay the costs entailed in the disasters they create. 

Government funding of companies like Solyndra also merit very tight control of  how such grants are made, and who is responsible for what and how much when they fail. The idea of making the money paid to Solyndra secondary to other investors and lenders should automatically put it in a different class. It is no longer an &quot;investment&quot; in any sense, but a pure gift. Imagine giving Bain Capital money on those terms in the &quot;hope&quot; they might create a few thousand jobs. They&#039;d be hanging Romney from the nearest lamp post if he failed to pay it back. Unquestionably, somebody should go to jail for that deal. These days, politicians can get away with anything. Just look at Rangel, Pelosi, Reid, and yes our dear wayward John Edwards. Clinton was a pauper when he squeaked by in 1992. Today&#039;s, he&#039;s a multi-millionaire, and his wife is getting in line to repeat that performance. They got away from the White House with a lot more than the silverware. And pardoned a bunch of crooks as they left.

Arms length government contracts awarded on a competitive basis are a different story, but they&#039;ve got to pass the smell test re: favoritism or again the taxpayer&#039;s is in jeopardy. The proper way to view these things is to recognize that the taxpayer is, in effect, a shareholder in the government and deserves all the protection against fraud and abuse that ordinary shareholders are entitled to by law. It is our government. It must answer to us, or we are no longer a free republic. And, in fact, today we aren&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you could right a book about this topic. </p>
<p>Any government entity should have pay caps, including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Why are they any different from the Post Office &#8212; including their power to screw things up royally?  Otherwise, they quickly and easily become &#8220;legal&#8221; ways to pay off the politically-connected at taxpayer expense.  The bonuses paid for poor performance at these entities is a total rip-off of the taxpayers, who also have to pay the costs entailed in the disasters they create. </p>
<p>Government funding of companies like Solyndra also merit very tight control of  how such grants are made, and who is responsible for what and how much when they fail. The idea of making the money paid to Solyndra secondary to other investors and lenders should automatically put it in a different class. It is no longer an &#8220;investment&#8221; in any sense, but a pure gift. Imagine giving Bain Capital money on those terms in the &#8220;hope&#8221; they might create a few thousand jobs. They&#8217;d be hanging Romney from the nearest lamp post if he failed to pay it back. Unquestionably, somebody should go to jail for that deal. These days, politicians can get away with anything. Just look at Rangel, Pelosi, Reid, and yes our dear wayward John Edwards. Clinton was a pauper when he squeaked by in 1992. Today&#8217;s, he&#8217;s a multi-millionaire, and his wife is getting in line to repeat that performance. They got away from the White House with a lot more than the silverware. And pardoned a bunch of crooks as they left.</p>
<p>Arms length government contracts awarded on a competitive basis are a different story, but they&#8217;ve got to pass the smell test re: favoritism or again the taxpayer&#8217;s is in jeopardy. The proper way to view these things is to recognize that the taxpayer is, in effect, a shareholder in the government and deserves all the protection against fraud and abuse that ordinary shareholders are entitled to by law. It is our government. It must answer to us, or we are no longer a free republic. And, in fact, today we aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Divya</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think in private sector, there is a way to know how much salary an employee is worth of, given the market conditions, profit margins and other motives of the organization. In government sector or in government subsidized firms, the motives of the organization are not aligned along the same line as of private companies, there is really little illuminating logic as to how much an employee really deserves or worth of. So in higher positions in govt. sectors, employees or bureaucratic clique usually secure huge pay packets for themselves. But the wealth they amass also comes from sources outside their general pay. Their are other ways of swindling public money. I guess there is a chance that political elite made millions of dollars in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from sources outside their pay packages. I am guessing because this is what I usually see happening in govt.-owned or subsidized companies. So putting a cap can&#039;t be of much help. Besides, its wrong for various reasons mentioned in this article. Two wrongs cannot make a right. Wrong plus Wrong = Wrong. The first wrong is establishment of govt owned/subsided companies. The second wrong is the step taken by the politicians to marginally correct the symptoms of the wrong, completely overlooking the real wrong. So doing this makes no sense, i.e. no good thing is going to come out of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in private sector, there is a way to know how much salary an employee is worth of, given the market conditions, profit margins and other motives of the organization. In government sector or in government subsidized firms, the motives of the organization are not aligned along the same line as of private companies, there is really little illuminating logic as to how much an employee really deserves or worth of. So in higher positions in govt. sectors, employees or bureaucratic clique usually secure huge pay packets for themselves. But the wealth they amass also comes from sources outside their general pay. Their are other ways of swindling public money. I guess there is a chance that political elite made millions of dollars in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from sources outside their pay packages. I am guessing because this is what I usually see happening in govt.-owned or subsidized companies. So putting a cap can&#8217;t be of much help. Besides, its wrong for various reasons mentioned in this article. Two wrongs cannot make a right. Wrong plus Wrong = Wrong. The first wrong is establishment of govt owned/subsided companies. The second wrong is the step taken by the politicians to marginally correct the symptoms of the wrong, completely overlooking the real wrong. So doing this makes no sense, i.e. no good thing is going to come out of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Gundlach</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Gundlach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No subsidized industry or entity is acceptable..GSE&#039;s should be cut loose and the market should decide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No subsidized industry or entity is acceptable..GSE&#8217;s should be cut loose and the market should decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Schleifer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Schleifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand about the moral quandary, but I have to say I&#039;m in favor of pay caps for companies in categories 1 through 4. Obviously the government has no business intruding in the affairs of private companies, but private companies can make a choice, even those in category 4, as to whether the contract with the federal government is worth having to live under the fed&#039;s rules.
For instance, in higher ed, schools that accept any federal dollars, even those that go with a student, are subject to all kinds of federal guidelines. Most schools just play along because they want the dollars. But Hillsdale and a few other dollars do not take federal money at all and don&#039;t have to play by the federal rules. Does Hillsdale lose out on students who need the federal money? Yes. But it is apparently worth it to Hillsdale to follow its principles.
I think the same could happen with private corporations.
Although, as you say, the danger is when the federal government decides to tyrannically impose its will upon businesses that choose the right path.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand about the moral quandary, but I have to say I&#8217;m in favor of pay caps for companies in categories 1 through 4. Obviously the government has no business intruding in the affairs of private companies, but private companies can make a choice, even those in category 4, as to whether the contract with the federal government is worth having to live under the fed&#8217;s rules.<br />
For instance, in higher ed, schools that accept any federal dollars, even those that go with a student, are subject to all kinds of federal guidelines. Most schools just play along because they want the dollars. But Hillsdale and a few other dollars do not take federal money at all and don&#8217;t have to play by the federal rules. Does Hillsdale lose out on students who need the federal money? Yes. But it is apparently worth it to Hillsdale to follow its principles.<br />
I think the same could happen with private corporations.<br />
Although, as you say, the danger is when the federal government decides to tyrannically impose its will upon businesses that choose the right path.</p>
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